Sleds

[LS1LOVE]

all my friends have snowmobiles and im thinking about getting one to.

anyone else have a sled?

[VPT]

I have a XC700 and the wife has a yamaha vmax 540. I am pulling mine out for sure within the next week.

[ragdoll]

You want to get a sled? Or a 6 foot long 500lb turd that breaks horribly when it inevitably touches anything when it goes out of control due to it being a 6 foot long 500lb turd that loses value faster than the US Dollar in the late 1920's and can usually be ridden 4 hours a year unless you tow it up north for 19 hours?

Cause you can get sleds at WalMart for like 10 bucks, Go for it.

[TSi_II]

I'm with Ragdoll... I love 4-wheeling, but agree with him 100% on this.

[VPT]

lol

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

you have to PAY to PLAY!

[TomKat]

You want to get a sled? Or a 6 foot long 500lb turd that breaks horribly when it inevitably touches anything when it goes out of control due to it being a 6 foot long 500lb turd that loses value faster than the US Dollar in the late 1920's and can usually be ridden 4 hours a year unless you tow it up north for 19 hours?

Cause you can get sleds at WalMart for like 10 bucks, Go for it.

This guy knows snowmobiles (tricycles) quite well.

[austinj06]

I was in an ATV accident when i was 13. A friend of mine, his parents own a gravel pit in Wautoma. We were messing around in there when i rolled my ATV doing about 40 and landed on my head and was knocked out, and I broke my hip. I had no helmet on either, lots of road rash. I havent been on a fourwheeler or snowmobile since. So thats why i wont be buying one anytime soon, and because they are the worst investment ever.

[ZXTUNER]

this is my new one 1986 manta twin track only made for 3 years only 12 made in 1986 550 cat motor


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[TomKat]

A steering wheel? That's cool. At least that sled isn't a tricycle.

[VPT]

Sounds like a bunch of accident prone pussys in here. Why do people have such trouble driving things that aren't firmly planted on the ground with 4 wheels?

Tom was anti computer to up untill someone gave one to him and set it up in his house. Now look at that post whore clutter up the boards with his hate.

Tom was anti computer to up untill someone gave one to him and set it up in his house. Now look at that post whore clutter up the boards with his hate.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[devlish]

Sounds like a bunch of accident prone pussys in here. Why do people have such trouble driving things that aren't firmly planted on the ground with 4 wheels?

Tom was anti computer to up untill someone gave one to him and set it up in his house. Now look at that post whore clutter up the boards with his hate.haha :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TomKat]

Anti computer - I don't think so. They usually work pretty good and allow cool shit like this forum.

Snowmobiles - They don't work all that great. OK I hate snowmobiles - I'll admit it.

[VPT]

You just don't know how to drive anything but a car just admit it.

[TomKat]

I can ride a bicycle. 8)

I drove a boat once. That was fun.

[VPT]

I can ride a bicycle. 8)

I drove a boat once. That was fun.


Barely, I seen you do a face plant off your bike at campus one day.

[TomKat]

That was fun. :roll:

[BadAss88GT]

You want to get a sled? Or a 6 foot long 500lb turd that breaks horribly when it inevitably touches anything when it goes out of control due to it being a 6 foot long 500lb turd that loses value faster than the US Dollar in the late 1920's and can usually be ridden 4 hours a year unless you tow it up north for 19 hours?

Cause you can get sleds at WalMart for like 10 bucks, Go for it.

What an incredibly retarded thing to say.

[Big'ens]

You want to get a sled? Or a 6 foot long 500lb turd that breaks horribly when it inevitably touches anything when it goes out of control due to it being a 6 foot long 500lb turd that loses value faster than the US Dollar in the late 1920's and can usually be ridden 4 hours a year unless you tow it up north for 19 hours?

Cause you can get sleds at WalMart for like 10 bucks, Go for it.


Ha Ha...this is funny, but yet so true!! Yes, snowmobiles are a lot of fun but not exactly worth it. This year is the first year in 8 years that you can take it out and ride it for more than two weeks!

[BadAss88GT]

Weird. I have over 600 miles on this winter, hasnt touched a trailer once. Hasnt broken a single part in over 5 years, and its paid for in cash, so the value means nothing.

[TomKat]

Hasnt broken a single part in over 5 years

Sorry. I have to throw the bullshit flag on this one.

Ragdolls post pretty much sums it up.

Well maybe you will be down for this Badass. For years I've been trying to set up a race between a car and a sled with absolutely no takers. So if that sled is still running and you want to race let me know.

[VPT]

Hasnt broken a single part in over 5 years

Sorry. I have to throw the bullshit flag on this one.

Ragdolls post pretty much sums it up.

Well maybe you will be down for this Badass. For years I've been trying to set up a race between a car and a sled with absolutely no takers. So if that sled is still running and you want to race let me know.


I had over 10K miles on my old efi 500 without a single problem except a couple plug changes. My current sled has 4700 on it I believe and also not a single problem.

Sleds aren't like they used to be back in the 70's when you rode them Tom, like cars they have came a long way and they don't have trouble anymore. In sense of break downs and whatnot I would like to see any car, truck, what have you go threw as much beating and just strait up shit pounding as a sled and hold up.

Snowmobiles today are very very reliable, very stable, and very fast and agile.

Maybe you should come out and try snowmobiling for your self and see what fun is all about.

[BadAss88GT]

Hasnt broken a single part in over 5 years

Sorry. I have to throw the bullshit flag on this one.

Ragdolls post pretty much sums it up.

Well maybe you will be down for this Badass. For years I've been trying to set up a race between a car and a sled with absolutely no takers. So if that sled is still running and you want to race let me know.

The last problem I had was winter of 2001 when my clutch took a shit. Havent had any trouble since. Ive made upgrades, but havent made any repairs.

Have you seen the times guys on sleds are running at WIR?

My sled will be no good for racing a car, I have no studs. It will just spin.

[LS1LOVE]

i rode a newer studded thunder cat this weekend and it was very fun but very dangerous trying to keep up

im shopping for one right now any suggestions

[VPT]

Polaris or ski doo!

The big twins are always really good all around sleds.

[TomKat]

Snowmobiles today are very very reliable, very stable, and very fast and agile.

Maybe you should come out and try snowmobiling for your self and see what fun is all about.

I just rode two different sleds a couple of weeks ago. No matter how far they've come you can't take away the fact that they are tricycles and are very unstable.

[TomKat]

Have you seen the times guys on sleds are running at WIR?

My sled will be no good for racing a car, I have no studs. It will just spin.

Arrrrggggghhhhh. :?

[BadAss88GT]

No matter how far they've come you can't take away the fact that they are tricycles and are very unstable.


HUH???

[TomKat]

Two skis in front and a big wheel (track) in back. That's three. Makes them very maneuverable, but also very unstable.

[BadAss88GT]

I can corner with my sled better than my car. Tell whoever owns the ones you ride to learn to setup suspensions. Nothing unstable about them if you do it properly.

[ragdoll]

Ok, I should have visited this thread sooner to clear up some confusion...

Snowmobiles definitely have their purpose. No one can contest that. They are made to roam bar to bar up north getting plastered so that if you can manage to get home without hitting a tree and dying or breaking through ice on a lake and dying... you may be able to watch that NASCAR rerun that you recorded on your fancy VHS tape recorder(that always flashes 12:00) while sipping on a Pabst beer can and curling your mullet.

I think if I would have explained that, we would have a lot less arguing here. I apologize.

DALE EARNHARDT FOREVER!

[TomKat]

I can corner with my sled better than my car. Tell whoever owns the ones you ride to learn to setup suspensions. Nothing unstable about them if you do it properly.

Your sled can corner better than your car, but you won't race me with it??????????

I've ridden all sorts of sleds and some are better than others, but you can't get away from the ustability because they have 3 contact points with the ground.

[VPT]

LOL they will never listen, fuck'em. Anyone that owns a sled knows what it is all about and all these other noobs and sit and talk.

[VPT]

I can corner with my sled better than my car. Tell whoever owns the ones you ride to learn to setup suspensions. Nothing unstable about them if you do it properly.

Your sled can corner better than your car, but you won't race me with it??????????

I've ridden all sorts of sleds and some are better than others, but you can't get away from the ustability because they have 3 contact points with the ground.


So a motorcycle with only 2 contact points must be a POS in the corners.

[VPT]

Like I said before this is all coming from a guy that can't drive anything but a car.....

[TomKat]

LOL they will never listen, fuck'em. Anyone that owns a sled knows what it is all about and all these other noobs and sit and talk.

I'll listen, but why don't you STFU and race. Always some excuse when it comes time to back up the talk. Its been that way for years I've been begging for a sled to race me.

[TomKat]

So a motorcycle with only 2 contact points must be a POS in the corners.

Well actually VPT this has been proven many times.

Once a motorcycle (dirt bike) showed up at Winnebago with studded tires and ran a time. The bike barely beat the non studded FWD car times.

[ragdoll]

Bikes are faster than cars... unless you have to turn. Common knowledge and moot point.

[devlish]

Bikes are faster than cars... unless you have to turn. Common knowledge and moot point. depends how sharp you have to turn though.

[TomKat]

Bikes are faster than cars... unless you have to turn. Common knowledge and moot point.

Uh. Wrong.

Unless you have to turn. :lol: Well almost every vehicle made has the capability of turning. You can't go straight forever. Ha ha.

[VPT]

You guys are all so funny! Tom I told you many times I am up for your offer but I am not going to take 110.00 worth of carbides and 200.00 worth of studs down the dry blacktop like you always want me to do. I said when we had plowed off tracks on the ice that would be perfect. So whenever you are ready to take your junk out on the ice or a COMPLETELY snow covered road you have yourself a race!

[devlish]

You guys are all so funny! Tom I told you many times I am up for your offer but I am not going to take 110.00 worth of carbides and 200.00 worth of studs down the dry blacktop like you always want me to do. can't argue with that... that shit ain't cheap to be driving down blacktop

I said when we had plowed off tracks on the ice that would be perfect. So whenever you are ready to take your junk out on the ice or a COMPLETELY snow covered road you have yourself a race! DuBay this year??

[BadAss88GT]

Ok, I should have visited this thread sooner to clear up some confusion...

Snowmobiles definitely have their purpose. No one can contest that. They are made to roam bar to bar up north getting plastered so that if you can manage to get home without hitting a tree and dying or breaking through ice on a lake and dying... you may be able to watch that NASCAR rerun that you recorded on your fancy VHS tape recorder(that always flashes 12:00) while sipping on a Pabst beer can and curling your mullet.


I think if I would have explained that, we would have a lot less arguing here. I apologize.
DALE EARNHARDT FOREVER!

Society sure is lucky to have people like you.

Lets see, I absolutely HATE ASSCAR, I dont drink, and I cut my mullet 12 years ago.

You really are a complete phucking moron, arent you? Lemme guess, you hate snowmobiles because you were riding you big brother's 81 Polaris 340 once and it got away from you in a corner, you panicked and you hit a tree, so now all snowmobiles are junk and anyone who rides them are stupid rednecks?


Tom, not wanting to race you has nothing to do with cornering, it has to do with no traction when I hit the throttle.But, if you want, come up here and we can race on the lake. I think once I stop spinning you'll be supirsed.

Tom, why are you so afraid of snowmobiles?

[VPT]

Tom drove some guys 85 arctic cat that was hard to start and had a 21" ski base.

[TomKat]

I'm not afraid of snowmobiles I just do not like them. Sure they have their place and if you enjoy them then more power to you. You have to remember I'm old and have been riding on snowmobiles since the 1970's.

Yes they have come a long way. I've ridden plenty of new sleds including some brand new Polaris 800 something with lots of studs. I held down the throttle for 2 seconds looked at the speedo and was going 60. :shock: A little while later the belt broke on that sled. :?

[TomKat]

Tom I told you many times I am up for your offer but I am not going to take 110.00 worth of carbides and 200.00 worth of studs down the dry blacktop like you always want me to do. I said when we had plowed off tracks on the ice that would be perfect. So whenever you are ready to take your junk out on the ice or a COMPLETELY snow covered road you have yourself a race!

When in the sam hell did I ever ask to race you on pavement????? I've challenged you to a race on a plowed track on the ice. You always come up with some damn excuse.

I'll be ready to take my junk out on the ice when it's safe. If you want to race on a snow covered road I'm ready right now and I have the perfect place.

Start making excuses VPT.

[VPT]

lol, whenever you think the ice is thick enough guy.

[TomKat]

lol, whenever you think the ice is thick enough guy.

I'll be holding you to this VPT. Better have a back door plan.

With the warm weather coming you should have some time to polish your excuses.

What about the snow covered road????? I'm ready for that right now.

[BadAss88GT]

Theres is plenty of ice on Lake Wausau. C'mon up.

[TomKat]

I kind of doubt you have enough ice up in Wausau. The Merril Ice Draggers canceled this weekend. Hell even the event in Eagle River got canceled.

[BadAss88GT]

Let me know when you feel its safe enough.

[VPT]

What about the snow covered road????? I'm ready for that right now.



I am sure your idea of snow covered and my idea are totaly diffferent.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

What about the snow covered road????? I'm ready for that right now.



I am sure your idea of snow covered and my idea are totaly diffferent.

Defenition of snow covered: Snow on top of a particular surface (ie: there is a nice new blacktop road with snow coving the blacktop)

[VPT]

Exactly, and there has to be at least 3 inchs for a sled.

[devlish]

Exactly, and there has to be at least 3 inchs for a sled. unless you can find a nice hard packed snow covered road. that would be ok too i imagine

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Exactly, and there has to be at least 3 inchs for a sled.

thats different than just snow covered.

[VPT]

Exactly, and there has to be at least 3 inchs for a sled.

thats different than just snow covered.


What is it called than?

[VPT]

Exactly, and there has to be at least 3 inchs for a sled. unless you can find a nice hard packed snow covered road. that would be ok too i imagine

It has to be thick enough for an 1" of stud to go threw and it has to be packed enough that spinning won't throw all the snow out.

[TomKat]

It has to be thick enough for an 1" of stud to go threw and it has to be packed enough that spinning won't throw all the snow out.

Holy crap. Do you need anything else? A butler when you show up to the location? Merry Maids to clean up your house while you are out racing? Snowmobile = Candy Ass.

[TomKat]

Let me know when you feel its safe enough.

What kind of track do you have plowed out up there?

[VPT]

It has to be thick enough for an 1" of stud to go threw and it has to be packed enough that spinning won't throw all the snow out.

Holy crap. Do you need anything else? A butler when you show up to the location? Merry Maids to clean up your house while you are out racing? Snowmobile = Candy Ass.


Snowmobiles aren't built to drive on the road. Here lets take your vette down the snowmobile trail!

[TomKat]

Oh boy the excuses are starting. Ha ha.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

i think the problem with a car vs snowmobile is the surface, neither sides will never be able to agree on a common surface.

I think ideally a few laps around the lake Dubay track would be suffice for both.

[VPT]

Oh no no no, Come on Tom let take that vette for a beat down the highline snowmobile trail! Come on guy, don't be making excusses now! Vette - trail - tonight!

[VPT]

it will be like a big auto-x for you tom, we can race sled to car down the trail from point to mosinee or wausau or wherever you like. We can do a loop or anything.

[devlish]

it will be like a big auto-x for you tom, we can race sled to car down the trail from point to mosinee or wausau or wherever you like. We can do a loop or anything. yeah, i gotta agree with VPT here. no surface is ideally suited for both car/sled. however, i guess just a drag race would be easiest out on dubay.

i'll give it to vpt in a drag race, thats for sure!!

[BadAss88GT]

Let me know when you feel its safe enough.

What kind of track do you have plowed out up there?

Track? None. Right on the ice. There will be hard pack out there also. I assumed you meant a flat out drag race. A good snow covered road would also work, though I dont know of many other than some logging roads.

[TomKat]

I've been bugging VPT to race me for years. And the race I've challenged him to is on a plowed track on a frozen lake. Always has been and I challenged him to the same race this year.

Now you guys are trying to tell me that won't be a suitable surface for the snowmobile. WTF. I want to challenge a snowmobile on it's own turf and for some reason I think a frozen lake would be OK for a sled. Maybe I'm wrong here. Call me crazy I guess.

VPT brought up the snow covered road race - that wasn't my idea.

VPT if you want to race between towns. You on the trails and me on roads I'm up for that too. We should do it on a night when it's snowing to keep things fair.

OK guys start making more excuses for the snowmobiles.

[VPT]

I never argued the plowed ice track. I am all up for handing out ass whoopings on a ice track.

Snowmobile trail from place to place is way way longer than roads from sameplace to place, that would be totaly unfair. Now you take your car down the trail that is a different story.

Like I said before whenever your scared ass thinks the ice is safe enough for you car let me know.

[TomKat]

I never argued the plowed ice track. I am all up for handing out ass whoopings on a ice track.


Never argued the plowed ice track, but for some reason over the past years you never show up come race time.

I'll let you know when the ice track is ready to go, but it will be a moot point because you won't show up anyways.

[VPT]

Have you been ice racing the last few years? Being in the fishing buisness all I have heard about the last few years was not enough ice.

[TomKat]

Yes we have and I call you out every time.

We may not get out this year the way things are going. :(

[BadAss88GT]

Glare ice is no good for me, I have no studs.

Lake Wausau would be fine, if we could find a flat spot of hardpack.

Youre the one coming up with the excuse, saying the ice isnt thick enough. I need more than 2 hands to count the cars I saw on the ice tonight.

ANd by the way, I jinxed myself the other day talking about how my sled hasnt had any issues. Primary started making noise tonight. Time for a rebuild.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

ANd by the way, I jinxed myself the other day talking about how my sled hasnt had any issues. Primary started making noise tonight. Time for a rebuild.

ha, any mechanical device will break sooner or later.

[TomKat]

I suppose I should clear this up Badass. I am not talking about a drag race on a lake. That is no contest and the sled will win that hands down because my car will probably get stuck 10 feet from the landing.

I'm talking about racing for best time around a plowed road course. When I race VPT (but this will never happen because he won't show up) I plan on using studded tires. If I'd race you I'd do it without studs to keep things fair. Actually you and I could go at down a snow covered road if you are running without studs. How about it?

I'm really not sure which would be faster, but in the past when I've raced sleds in this manner it has been a really close contest. I think it will be a lot of fun finding out.

[VPT]

Oh now your going to run studs on your car? Are those DOT tires?

[TomKat]

Oh now your going to run studs on your car? Are those DOT tires?

Yes they are DOT tires as a matter of fact. Hey if you have studs so can I Mr. Chicken.

[VPT]

Oh now your going to run studs on your car? Are those DOT tires?

Yes they are DOT tires as a matter of fact. Hey if you have studs so can I Mr. Chicken.


Ok Tom, I agree you need all the help you can get.

[TomKat]

All I need is a plowed track with enough ice.

[VPT]

Thats all it takes for an ass whoopin yes.