Winter salt

[VPT]

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[devlish]

why would you drive that beautiful machine in the winter?!??!?!!? youre not jeske are you??

thats what the crown vic is for... winter. guy.

[VPT]

why would you drive that beautiful machine in the winter?!??!?!!? youre not jeske are you??

thats what the crown vic is for... winter. guy.

Crown vic is getting new rotors, calipers, pads, brake lines, fuel lines, ect. because of the salt last year. Liquid salt FTL!

[devlish]

oh yeah... now i remember. aren't you done with that yet?? you were working on that last tuesday when i called... a week already??

[VPT]

Yah, I tryed ordering some realy cheap shit off the internet and they sent the wrong shit so I had to wait for more shit and now I am waiting to have a good few days of time on the lift to rip all the lines out and replace them.

[LS1LOVE]

Ive never heard of fuel lines going bad from salt. Ive been driving my chevy pickup in the winter for over a decade and not had salt kill brake or fuel lines. Maybe its a ford thing.

[VPT]

I know aftermarket stuff is junk but I have had to replace already replaced lines due to rust. So its not just a ford problem. I have even used the coated lines and they rusted threw as well. Only other option for this stuff is stainless. However stainless tends to crack when flaring ends and doing tight bends.

Stainless is to expensive for the crown vic, I'm just doing everything in steel. I have told my dad that next truck we get is getting all new stainless exhaust, brake lines, and fuel lines before it goes on the road. That is of coarse if it doesn't come with something stainless factory.

Which brings me to another point of why vehicals don't come from the factory with stainless brake lines for that safety reason?

[devlish]

what about coating the steel lines before installing them??

[ZXTUNER]

Which brings me to another point of why vehicals don't come from the factory with stainless brake lines for that safety reason?


Stainless is to expensive they would have to add 3300 to the sticker price even thought it only cost 2 or 300 bux

[TomKat]

Which brings me to another point of why vehicals don't come from the factory with stainless brake lines for that safety reason?

Hmm. Good idea.

[VPT]

Which brings me to another point of why vehicals don't come from the factory with stainless brake lines for that safety reason?

Hmm. Good idea.


I acctually know the answer to my own question but I think it is a stupid reason.

they don't like to use stainless because in a accident it can crack and cause you to lose your brakes. :roll:

[TomKat]

Ohh. Bad idea.

Bad Andy - mmm good pizza.

[speedyshelby]

You could of fooled me that Gm trucks brake and gas line never rust out. :evil:

I tell you where they will rust to. Right in front the driverside rear tire between the frame and the gas tank. Where I work I usaully have to replace one or both these types lines about once a month or more in the spring.

Most newer fords run stainless fuel line. Anything that is a flex fuel should have stainless lines.

[LS1LOVE]

why would fles fuel have anything to do with the lines

[TomKat]

Flex fuel has everything to do with the fuel lines. That's the reason your car has to be E85 prepared in order to run that fuel.

I read E85 eats through normal fuel lines.

[VPT]

Just the rubber hoses and o rings.

[speedyshelby]

It can rust your gas tank and lines from the inside.
Corrosion Concerns

E10 can present problems in older vehicles and gasoline-fueled equipment, especially those produced before the mid-1980s without ethanol-compatible parts. According to Rory Carroll at Hagerty, a company that insures collector cars, “Ethanol has been shown to contribute to the deterioration of rubber and certain metals, even in small concentrations. Ethanol readily absorbs and retains water, and it conducts electricity. These factors may contribute to corrosion.”

A potential problem is deterioration or swelling and hardening of rubber components like fuel hoses, carburetor seals and gaskets, and fuel pump seals when in contact with ethanol. This may lead to fuel leaks. The solution is replacement of components with ethanol-compatible ones.

Ethanol’s tendency to hold dissolved or suspended water can also lead to gum, varnish, and carbon deposit formation problems. This can be especially troublesome with vehicles and equipment that sits idle for extended periods. It can cause rust and pitting in metal components such as fuel tanks. If you plan to store vehicles or equipment, run the tank dry before storing.



http://www.fuelpub.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&id=27&pageNum=4

[LS1LOVE]

if by older you mean 80s then yes but newer 95+ cars can run it as long as the get rid of their converter and tune fuel delivery

flex vehicles run the same fuel lines and fuel pumps that regular cars do but they have an ethanol content calibrating computer allowing them to adjust fuel delivery based on content

[VPT]

Either way e85 is useless because you have to burn more fuel than if you were running normal gas. So the money you save at the pump gets burned up in less miles on a tank.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Either way e85 is useless because you have to burn more fuel than if you were running normal gas. So the money you save at the pump gets burned up in less miles on a tank.

BUT e85 has a bigger octane rating.

[VPT]

Either way e85 is useless because you have to burn more fuel than if you were running normal gas. So the money you save at the pump gets burned up in less miles on a tank.

BUT e85 has a bigger octane rating.

Thats great....