View Full Version : Another life, lost..
TSi_II
10-30-2007, 03:30 AM
I'm not sure if anyone even knows about this crash yet, or who all were involved, but I saw the two mangled cars and cops right after the ambulences left. Looked as though the Sheriff's car got the best of it, I'm sure there will be pictures by tomorrow.... The girl who died was 19.
http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071029/SPJ0101/71029194/1983
TomKat
10-30-2007, 07:24 AM
Firehazard knew the girl and I guess she was good friends with Miss O.
What a tragedy. :(
devlish
10-30-2007, 08:36 AM
that really sucks. i just heard of it this morning abut 2 mins before seeing this post and reading the news
Dizmm, (Old Account)
10-30-2007, 09:28 AM
wow :?
Greg86z28
10-30-2007, 11:05 AM
Does anyone know the girls name? 19 years old is the class below me.
Big'ens
10-30-2007, 11:09 AM
Her name is Mindy Erickson and the journal says she is 18 years old.
Pointdsm
10-30-2007, 01:00 PM
Hmm, sounds familiar, she would be roughly my age..
devlish
10-30-2007, 01:47 PM
the complete report is not in yet, but i somewhat agree with helby. i've seen police/sheriff cars in general go buzzing through red lights and barely slow down. if they have a red light, they really need to slow down. they cannot count on everybody hearing/seeing the sirens in the cross traffic road. like the blogger on the journal site said... if you see a green light, you're going to go. you might not hear the sirens. can't blame the girl.
however, by suing the hell out the sheriffs dept... you know who is going end up paying... the taxpayers. yes, their ins. will cover it, then somehow taxes will reflect that. always does when something bad happens to a Gov. institution.
Pointdsm
10-30-2007, 01:49 PM
I just say sue the shit out of the actual person, not the sherrifs. Things will change in point because of this, but that sherrif deserves to have his life taken away(not physically, but in almost every other way).
Greg86z28
10-30-2007, 02:48 PM
I know her. Not personally though.
Sassypants
10-30-2007, 03:01 PM
What a tragedy. I see cops, firetrucks, and ambulances blow the lights by my house all the time, but they ALWAYS slow down at least and honk A LOT before going through... By the reports so far it seems this officer didnt do that, just had lights and sirens.
EVILUTION
10-30-2007, 03:30 PM
I'm just glad it wasn't me. I see triple digits on my way to work every damn day. The highest posted limit is 35. Keep in mind I don't have flashing lights or a siren. Accidents happen. Loud music, cell phones, tinted windows, and even exhaust rumble can cover the sound of sirens or distract from berries and cherries.
The officer did screw up .... no question ... but other than his career being tainted, will he be charged with reckless driving or unintentional vehicular manslaughter? I was threatened with attempted VM for speeding alone.
TSi_II
10-30-2007, 04:29 PM
The girl was in my graduating class, so one year below you Eric. I wonder how big of a deal this will turn into, after seeing how blown out of proportion that ambulence incedent got, I'd imagine this one will see it worse.
TSi_II
10-30-2007, 08:20 PM
Well obviously... I mean the fact of how long it look, all the "investigations" into what could've caused it when they had the video and saw them hanging from the "oh shit" handles long before they actually crashed, it made front page of the news for who knows how fucking long and they still have a tarp covering up the god damn hole!
turbo chick
10-30-2007, 08:39 PM
I actually knew mindy too. My mom called me on my way home from class to tell me about it. Our families used to stay in hotel rooms together at soccer tournaments. I feel so bad for her family. And Miss O. I can't imagine losing a really close friend so suddenly like that.
devlish
10-30-2007, 09:12 PM
i got a personal call from a friend of hers tonight to make a banner to hang along side the road near Walgreens... i guess there is some shrine going up there temporarily. just an FYI if anyone wants to pay respects.
DirtyBird
10-30-2007, 11:38 PM
my wife told me about this last night. It pisses me off alot considering she drives through that exact intersection twice a day, and only 15 minutes later drove through that intersection after the accident. Today i guess she found out that the girl didn't have a scratch on her, which is amazing considering the damage to her car. To push a driver's side door half-way through a car had to have taken some speed. The limit there is only 25, and there is no way the cop was driving that slow.
Very sad.
I think the sppd may need some new drivers that have EXPERIENCE.
Pointdsm
10-31-2007, 12:00 AM
I hope this turns into the biggest deal they can make it! Police are not above the law, the have rights to enforce it, but to a point. I hope this officer get alot more than a simple tainted record, he killed a fucking young woman!
TomKat
10-31-2007, 12:50 AM
I am disgusted by some of you condemning the officer before you know the whole story.
Perhaps he was guilty, but police have a job to do and maybe he was in the right. Accidents happen.
A very unfortunate accident in this case. :(
Pointdsm
10-31-2007, 12:56 AM
Correct, but i am not retracting my comments until i am proved wrong, then I will have no problem doing so, but until then i am officially pissed off and angered.
TSi_II
10-31-2007, 08:10 AM
This situation has no guilty or innocent side. Each side has too many arguments to condemn one or the other without taking everything into consideration. Yes, it's hard to think that way when a life is lost, but every single one of us cannot say we've never been reckless or endangered someone. It's was an ACCIDENT, either side of it could've happened to anyone.
devlish
10-31-2007, 09:46 AM
This situation has no guilty or innocent side. Each side has too many arguments to condemn one or the other without taking everything into consideration. Yes, it's hard to think that way when a life is lost, but every single one of us cannot say we've never been reckless or endangered someone. It's was an ACCIDENT, either side of it could've happened to anyone.
it's a terrible thing to say, but only 1 person died. 2 other people were injured if i'm not mistaken. things could have been worse.
and of course, things could have been MUCH better as well though. it was an accident, that probably could have been prevented. but it wasn't, and that's what an accident is.
barubabe1
10-31-2007, 09:55 AM
I just hope someone doesn't come back and say that it was partially the girl's fault b/c even though she had the green light, she's supposed to look both ways before entering the intersection (it says so right in the driver's ed manual). But seriously, how many people actually do that? And whatever happens to the cop, I think we need to remember that he will have to live with the fact that he killed a young lady for the rest of his life. Not saying that's punishment for carelessness or anything else, but it should be considered.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
10-31-2007, 09:59 AM
I don’t know this police officer personally but I do know a few cops that do think they are "above" the law and this is something that could happen when an officer bereaves he is superior on the road.
Pointdsm
10-31-2007, 12:02 PM
I agree with you very much, i hope it does create a huge deal, and does make changes. But i also hope the officer does not get off free personally because he was on the job, he needs to get punished as well...
Dizmm, (Old Account)
10-31-2007, 12:16 PM
he needs to get punished as well...
He should be punished as if it was anyone else on the road that ran the red-light.
I feel that this officer should not be treated any more harshly because of the way people felt towards the cops prior to this tragedy, but hopefully this is a big eye-opening for the law enforcement and they realize that cant drive as if they are superior to everyone else on the road.
I also hope they will eventually realize that they are there to pretect, not make money off stupid little traffic violations that dont harm others. If I am traveling down a main highway, and they cause danger to others because they whipped a U-turn right in the middle of the road just to pull me over because my car has an aftermarket exhaust system that is still not nearly as loud as the semi next to me; to me that is just stupid!
Pointdsm
10-31-2007, 12:24 PM
EXACTLY! Fixing my exhaust in about an hour...
DontStopMe
10-31-2007, 12:30 PM
I also hope they will eventually realize that they are there to pretect, not make money off stupid little traffic violations that dont harm others. If I am traveling down a main highway, and they cause danger to others because they whipped a U-turn right in the middle of the road just to pull me over because my car has an aftermarket exhaust system that is still not nearly as loud as the semi next to me; to me that is just stupid!
+1 for dizzm. Kind of off topic, but I agree 100%. FTC!
devlish
10-31-2007, 12:33 PM
i don't think the call he was responding to was that much of an emergency either to warrant a high speed drive thru town. it was a hit & run down in plover. litterally speaking too. the guy hit a building, and starting running ON FOOT. i mean c'mon, you have his car. you know who he is... no need to fly through town at crazy speeds when there is still decent traffic (6:50pm). it wasn't a life/death call he was responding too. but i'm sure there is always special circumstances, and we don't know the full story.
helby
10-31-2007, 12:39 PM
a dude hit one of those trailers behind skyclub with his car....fucking lame no reason to speed through town.
devlish
10-31-2007, 12:40 PM
probably did the trailer-dwellars a favor. good reason to move out.
dude was probably drunk, and didn't get far on foot either.
whatevr.
TSi_II
10-31-2007, 02:51 PM
That guy didn't just "hit" a trailer. He was trying to kill his wife.
devlish
10-31-2007, 03:01 PM
That guy didn't just "hit" a trailer. He was trying to kill his wife.and the plot thickens...
TSi_II
10-31-2007, 06:26 PM
At the time, the thoughts in his head were to save a life. Sure, safety was risked, maybe a little carelessness came into play, but it is a decision he made. Cops aren't superhumans or less than humans either for that matter, they make choices, sometimes with results less than favorable. No one knew it would happen. I bet in our city, more often than we see, cops make that same choice every day. He was the unfortunate one who had a young girl and himself be in the wrong place at the wrong time.... I'm not defending or condemning either, but I am saying it is biased to make accusations against either side when all the details haven't come out yet. Like Helby said, we will have to wait and see.
TSi_II
01-21-2008, 10:19 PM
http://stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080121/SPJ0101/80121149/1983&GID=ShGxG+G2+8UBq/V90Sg86QX+FGLGgp/7pxvx7PItUmI%3D
Makes me sick.
Fuck that, should be a min. 40 years in a pound a pig in the ass prison.
TomKat
01-21-2008, 10:50 PM
VPT I think mean: federal pound me in the ass prison.
Yes but I had to edit it a little because cops get special treatment.
ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That cop should get AT LEAST life in prison... okay... maybe that's a little harsh... but still... that was Mindy... and i have heard from numerous people that she was THE sweetest girl in the entire world...
ugh... i fuckin hate cops...
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 12:12 AM
They should place him in a car in the same intersection and run into him with a truck. Just enough to completly fuck him up, just about to a vegtable. Let him recover the best he can and do it again. This time giving him what he deserves.
He needs the bunker buster experience from inside the car.
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 01:05 AM
He needs the bunker buster experience from inside the car.
Yeah, what he said.
MissO
01-22-2008, 09:18 AM
http://stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080121/SPJ0101/80121149/1983&GID=ShGxG+G2+8UBq/V90Sg86QX+FGLGgp/7pxvx7PItUmI%3D
Makes me sick.
That is seriously bullshit... there is no way he was only going 52! That asshole should go to prison for waaaay longer than that.... or we could just shoot him, that always works.
barubabe1
01-22-2008, 09:21 AM
Not that I'm arguing one way or the other on the length of the sentence, but I think we all need to remember that going to prison as a former cop is a lot different than going to prison as a regular joe. For those of you who are upset over the shortness of his possible sentence, I have a feeling his experience will be a hundred times worse than if he had gotten 40 years. On the other hand, his cop buddies could watch out for him. Just something to consider...would you want to be confined in a prison where you had possibly had a hand in putting a bunch of criminals?
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 09:57 AM
I understand the personal loss of those who knew her, I've lost a lot of people as well. This cop was 53, he was 2 years away from retirement after serving our city most of his life. He had one poor error of judgement and it resulted in the loss of a life. I'm not shifting the blame anywhere it doesn't need to be, but neither of the 2 drivers were obeying all laws or driving with any caution. I don't think he needs to go to prison at all, what will that prove? That someone who has a ZERO percent chance of doing anything bad in the community deserves to go to prison for driving a little fast trying to safe another's life? Then shoot us all.
EVILUTION
01-22-2008, 10:37 AM
I think you should research this fella a little more..... this is the second death he is responsible for. If you speak with the townies in this area he is known to be a "do as I say not as I do" kinda guy.
I can't throw any stones because I drive like complete ass. But I'm sure if something were to happen my asshole would be getting stretched out.
devlish
01-22-2008, 11:35 AM
this is the second death he is responsible for. . and all he got was a MAX of 10yrs for a 2nd offense? he'll be out in 2 i'm sure.
But I'm sure if something were to happen my asshole would be getting stretched out. is that something you think about often when you drive like an ass?
but neither of the 2 drivers were obeying all laws or driving with any caution.
He ran through the red light without even looking first, though... it was mostly his fault because he had the red light... i know cops have the right of way when they are on call... but they are SUPPOSED to slow down for red lights... not blow through them like a bat out of hell....
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 12:22 PM
Protect and serve.
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 12:23 PM
She hesitated when the light turned yellow, then went for it right before the light turned red (according to the witness who was driving behind her). When he (the cop) saw her, she probably looked stopped, and when she saw him, she probably underestimated his speed, if she even saw him at all. I'm not saying one more person is any more at fault than the other, but such a harsh penalty is not justified to me.
"and i have heard from numerous people that she was THE sweetest girl in the entire world... "
Is that enough of a reason for you to put someone in prison? It's comments like that one that bring up arguments.
When TK hit the deer and the van side-swiped him, if that van's driver lost control and died, would you want Tom to rot in prison because both of them were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
TomKat
01-22-2008, 12:24 PM
The officer was doing his job. Yes he made a huge mistake. Accidents happen. Very unfortunate accidents. :(
Hurting the officer now will not bring the girl back. Hopefully something can be learned from this so it will not happen again.
Protect and serve.
Amen extreme!
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 12:30 PM
I'm sorry but a life is lost and her family has to live with that for the rest of their lives. An officer should clear an intersection before flying through a red light. Officer should be dealt with accordingly. Yeah, you can not bring her back but you can sure teach someone a lesson for not doing what they should have done.
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 12:32 PM
He'll lose his job and probably a big chunk of his retirement and have to deal with the fact that he killed an 18 year old girl... Sitting in prison should be for criminals, not people who made a decision while at work.
Theres tom always sticking up for the wrong side.
Emergency vehicals and patrol vehicals even with lights and siren on are still liable for the way they drive and are still sposed to yeild to red lights and stop signs.
No reason what so ever to be speeding like a dip shit to a hit and run, the accident a;ready happend I am sure the guy isn't going to go anywhere and the runner is already gone.
Lights and siren runs are for roberies, shootings, people with bombs, ect. Not to go to an accident.....
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7914/fthepolicezb2.jpg
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 12:39 PM
I agree with you there, but I just think all the talk of him going to prison isn't necessary, he doesn't belong there.
Yah he belongs in a grave next to the inocent girl.
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 12:42 PM
He'll lose his job and probably a big chunk of his retirement and have to deal with the fact that he killed an 18 year old girl... Sitting in prison should be for criminals, not people who made a decision while at work.
Did he lose his life? Accidents do happen but this could have been prevented. Sure, sitting in prison is for criminals. Someone that is supposed to protect and serve, does not do his fucking job right and kills an innocent girl should pay the piper!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 12:47 PM
Pay the piper... lol :lol:
We could go back and forth for days on this, but I shared my half, you guys shared yours, we'll see what the judge says.
DEATH BY LEATHAL BEATINGS!
EVILUTION
01-22-2008, 01:49 PM
If I ran a red light and killed a cop..... I bet I would do some time.
If I ran a red light and killed a cop..... I bet I would do some time.
you would prolly be in a high security prison for at least 15 or 20 years if not more with no chance of parole... but all he gets is a slap on the wrist and a maximum of 10 years... :evil: WTF... this is all B/S... :evil:
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 01:55 PM
If I ran a red light and killed a cop..... I bet I would do some time.
Very good point. I bet you would do quite a bit of time.
Pointdsm
01-22-2008, 02:10 PM
Punishment, by way of having to wake up in your comfy bed, nice house and family around you everyday, only to possibly have that thought in your head, is far from being DEAD!
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 02:22 PM
Whom ever is saying this guy should not get the book thrown at him, put yourself in that poor girls shoes. Your life was ended pretty much before it even started. If an officer of the law killed you in a car accident that could have been avoided by him slowing down and clearing the intersection like he was supposed to do, I am pretty sure you would be pist off and want him dealt with.
Pointdsm
01-22-2008, 03:37 PM
It is the same issue with any job that requires driving. If you fail to abide the laws, yes LAWS, you MUST and SHOULD face the consequences of the normal citizen. He should get the same penalty as if I was driving my car through the intersection. He was speeding, so was I.
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 05:01 PM
So if the roles were flipped and the cop was a well known guy on the forum, he died and Mindy walked away, you'd all throw her in prison for the rest of her life?
fordssuck
01-22-2008, 07:23 PM
You can put the story either way but the fact is that IT IS THE LAW for even ambulances the stop at a red light. I completed the EMT class in point and the one thing that i remember more then anything else at this time is no matter what you think it is illegal to not stop at a red light. I remember within the next week seeing cops with their lights on, and they all stopped at the red light i was at, probably covering thier own ass. Not even an ambulance can legally run a red light.
Like evil said, how much time do you think he would of got if he wasnt a cop?
Truthfully the cop is likely to get 2 years and serve 18 months
MissO
01-22-2008, 08:42 PM
She hesitated when the light turned yellow, then went for it right before the light turned red (according to the witness who was driving behind her). When he (the cop) saw her, she probably looked stopped, and when she saw him, she probably underestimated his speed, if she even saw him at all. I'm not saying one more person is any more at fault than the other, but such a harsh penalty is not justified to me.
"and i have heard from numerous people that she was THE sweetest girl in the entire world... "
Is that enough of a reason for you to put someone in prison? It's comments like that one that bring up arguments.
When TK hit the deer and the van side-swiped him, if that van's driver lost control and died, would you want Tom to rot in prison because both of them were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Ok... I don't want to be hostile or anything, but this girl was my best friend and I feel like I have a responsibillity to clear shit up...
I went to the police station the day after she died... I went to her smashed up car and took her things out of the backseat... I talked to the cops there and the light was green. The light had just turned green, her music was not loud and she was not on her cell phone. The cop was going way too fast, he didnt tap his brakes, and he smashed into her and broke her neck. The police KNOW THIS, and have said that she wasnt at fault. The only thing she ever did wrong was live on a town where cops have their heads shoved so far up their asses that they cant hit their fucking brakes because they are on some kind of power trip. And quite frankly, I don't give a fuck how close he is to retiring, its not a "simple mistake," and he deserves to live with the cosequences and the guilt. Yes, she was the sweetest girl in the world, argue about it if you have to, but she has a right to be remembered in some way. They can't sweep this under the rug, and he fucked up.
Again, sorry to bitch, but Mindy was my better half, and it drives me crazy to hear people say that she did anything wrong, because she sure as hell didnt.
Greg86z28
01-22-2008, 08:45 PM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
Pointdsm
01-22-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't blow cars up...and actually don't like street racing.
Greg86z28
01-22-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't blow cars up...and actually don't like street racing.
That comment wasn't referenced to you.
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
YES! And if one of us KILLS some one I would expect that person to go to prison for a very very long time as well.
So whats your point?
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 09:34 PM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
I assume that comment was towards me. Please come and say that to my face, I will be the one to end up back in prison for breaking your fucking face!!!!!!! Did I kill anyone you fucking idiot? Do I collect disability/unemployment, HELL NO. And, don't tell me that you have not raced on the street or broken a law on the street. Watch what the fuck you say to me you little fuck.
EVILUTION
01-22-2008, 09:47 PM
Stop the madness!!!!!
Our legal system and a jury will determine the outcome.
I'm just thankful it wasn't me.
DSM Girl
01-22-2008, 09:54 PM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
Are you an idiot? I'm pretty sure that if my husband was collecting disability/unemployment I would know about it. Heck if he was, maybe I wouldn't work 3 jobs. Again, I seem to have to set a few people straight. You should really think before you speak.
And Extreme wasn't the only one involved in the blowing up of a car, there were several others involved, just not on the camera. Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
So you have never raced on a public street? The only racing you have ever done is on a track? What the fuck ever!
barubabe1
01-22-2008, 10:03 PM
Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
Actually, what I found MOST amusing was when the narrators on Video Justice said the culprit was "known local ex-convict Frank Koziol". That was very funny. :shock:
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
I also take offense to that comment... :evil:
MissO
01-22-2008, 10:09 PM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
Are you an idiot? I'm pretty sure that if my husband was collecting disability/unemployment I would know about it. Heck if he was, maybe I wouldn't work 3 jobs. Again, I seem to have to set a few people straight. You should really think before you speak.
And Extreme wasn't the only one involved in the blowing up of a car, there were several others involved, just not on the camera. Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
So you have never raced on a public street? The only racing you have ever done is on a track? What the fuck ever!
I'm with you on this one... I wouldn't be pointing fingers like that here. Either say it in person or keep it to yourself.
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 10:10 PM
Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
Actually, what I found MOST amusing was when the narrators on Video Justice said the culprit was "known local ex-convict Frank Koziol". That was very funny. :shock:
Yes, that was the funniest part. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
Actually, what I found MOST amusing was when the narrators on Video Justice said the culprit was "known local ex-convict Frank Koziol". That was very funny. :shock:
A bunch of us went to TKs house to watch videos and somehow we ended up watching Frank's video... and we had to get tom to rewind the part where they "closed" the jail cell bars... and it made a *DOOSH!* noise... i think we all had tears coming out of our eyes cuz it was just that funny... that and the whole blowing up of the car with fireworks... friggin genious frank!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i liked it! :lol:
and yes... i did say DOOSH! again... lol
DSM Girl
01-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Trust me when I say Barubabe found it funny in a different way than the rest of us found it funny.
Greg86z28
01-22-2008, 10:22 PM
I love this site.
devlish
01-22-2008, 10:28 PM
I love this site. fuckin-A!!!!
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 10:31 PM
And now back on subject.
Think about this really hard. Put on of your parents, bothers, sisters or children in that car. Keep thinking.........
Greg86z28
01-22-2008, 10:40 PM
And now back on subject.
Think about this really hard. Put on of your parents, bothers, sisters or children in that car. Keep thinking.........
Extreme. I was just giving you before. Don't have hard feelings about it. It's just the internet. I live by what you said; if I mean it, I'd come over and say it. The internet is just BS man. Right? 8)
Plus, if you were on disability, I'd be on it too because you have a lift in your garage and you just bought a 20k dollar street "race" car. I doubt any job I'll get in the future will get me a lift in my garage!
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 11:33 PM
Kate, I didn't mean to offend you or say anything offensive for that matter, just the fact that people are so quick to judge and condemn others. I know she was your best friend, I sat next to her in Math class last semester and actually talked to her quite a bit and you came up a few times, she was one of the nicest people I met last semester.... But back on topic, it's just the fact that personal loss creates a bias one way or the other, and if you dad was the cop, or mine, or Frank's, we'd all sing a different tune. We all wish she could have walked away and everything would be fine again.... But there are two sides to this accident and two familes that are going to and have suffered huge losses.
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 11:35 PM
And Extreme wasn't the only one involved in the blowing up of a car, there were several others involved, just not on the camera. Your going to tell me that if and when you saw that video, you did not find it somewhat amusing?
As for all that business...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Extremedsm
01-22-2008, 11:51 PM
They should sing the tune of frying bacon.
TSi_II
01-22-2008, 11:56 PM
Sure Frank, sure... lol
Well I think my views have been over-expressed here, so as Jeske says...
UNSUBSCRIBED
EVILUTION
01-23-2008, 07:02 AM
Don't sizzle fat..... sizzle lean
I'm unsubscribed as well.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
01-23-2008, 09:35 AM
There are good cops and bad cops, and LOTS of in-between!
Cops always suck until you need them yourself...
What would we need a cop for? I can pretty much take care of myself.
And now back on subject.
Think about this really hard. Put on of your parents, bothers, sisters or children in that car. Keep thinking.........
Extreme. I was just giving you before. Don't have hard feelings about it. It's just the internet. I live by what you said; if I mean it, I'd come over and say it. The internet is just BS man. Right? 8)
Plus, if you were on disability, I'd be on it too because you have a lift in your garage and you just bought a 20k dollar street "race" car. I doubt any job I'll get in the future will get me a lift in my garage!
BAN!!!
Well, for what? Waiting.....
barubabe1
01-23-2008, 10:35 AM
Except for the county cop who backed into me a few years ago. Hel-lo!!! My car is fire engine red. It was a sunny day. How could he not see me?
But what really pissed me off was when he called his buddies and got off with a verbal warning instead of a ticket for inattentive driving which any one of US would have gotten had we done the same thing. Sigh. At least I got a new hood, front bumper cover, and grill out of the deal.
turbo chick
01-23-2008, 11:28 AM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
I also take offense to that comment... :evil:
Why on earth do you take offense to this????? It was clearly meant to piss off Frank.
devlish
01-23-2008, 01:27 PM
I like how the people who are ranting for him to rot in jail are the same people who blow up cars, collect disability/unelmployment yet are able to roof their house, and race at 100+ on public streets.
I also take offense to that comment... :evil:
Why on earth do you take offense to this????? It was clearly meant to piss off Frank. unless she's also an ex-con on "disability/unemployment" and likes to blow shit up and re-roof her house.
hahaha
no... i was talkin about the part about collecting unemployment... sorry... :( but i do like to blow shit up... :lol: ... not so much the re-roofing... i'm afraid of heights...
Greg86z28
01-23-2008, 02:47 PM
BAN!!!
I guess so. Heaven forbid you razz someone on the internet.
fordssuck
01-23-2008, 04:13 PM
Has any body else almost been hit by a cop at an intersection before? You have the green light and the stereo is on but not loud, its dark out and the snowbank/tree/ups truck/ house is bolocking the light/ dampening the sounds of the sirens then woosh the cop just speeds right infront of you as you jam on the breaks.
Its happened to me atleast twice, mabey its just my bad luck, but I still think that some of the cops out there just drive like idiots for the wrong less severe situations that give them no logical reason to drive like that.
In the "mindy" case he was driving to a 60 plus to a sceen 2 blocks away from the plover police station. Obviosly a pullover officer would get there before him so he had no reason to be driving that fast to get there.
This cop killed one kid while hazzing him in college, killed another one in an accident while on duty.
Then 2 weeks before mindys accident He crashed his car while drunk over by rustys. He probably should of been suspended for that but he wasnt.
I was linked over to a website that included the sentences for people running red lights and killing someone and they were in jail on average for 20 years YEARS not months
Now MINDY.....
Were the f*** was this guy able to keep his job during all of this????
devlish
01-23-2008, 04:19 PM
Then 2 weeks before mindys accident He crashed his car while drunk over by rustys. He probably should of been suspended for that but he wasnt. what!??!?!?!?! a cop drunk driving but not getting suspended??? umm.... WHAT!
fordssuck
01-23-2008, 04:27 PM
When he crashed into mindy the plover police department was handling the DUI, with no suspension at the time.
Sassypants
01-23-2008, 07:35 PM
ill just say you do not know the details about the thing in college ok. Just cause he was the head of the frat dosent mean he killed the guy. The guy who died evidently had a shitton to drink and that resulted in his death as i recall...
that would be correct...
DSM Girl
01-24-2008, 10:30 AM
BAN!!!
I guess so. Heaven forbid you razz someone on the internet.
There is a difference between razzing someone on the internet and posting stuff about someone's personal life for the whole world to read! That's just childish and rude. This is supposedly a car website if you want to raz people about their cars, go ahead, but when it's personal that's just uncalled for.
helby
01-24-2008, 11:27 AM
It goes both ways then hun....
DSM Girl
01-24-2008, 12:01 PM
What do you mean by that? I don't bring up people's personal lives (whether it be good or bad) on here for everyone to read.
Greg86z28
01-24-2008, 01:47 PM
BAN!!!
I guess so. Heaven forbid you razz someone on the internet.
There is a difference between razzing someone on the internet and posting stuff about someone's personal life for the whole world to read! That's just childish and rude. This is supposedly a car website if you want to raz people about their cars, go ahead, but when it's personal that's just uncalled for.
I don't understand what the big deal is. People need to lighten up. It's the internet. Besides, it's not true so who gives a rats ass? I still think it's funny as hell and the way people freaked out about it is even funner. I thought some virtual bullets might come flying out of my screen or something!
It was supposed to be a joke, but I forgot, only certain people are allowed to talk smack and joke on this site. I'll have to remember this before I post something next time.
Greg86z28
01-24-2008, 03:31 PM
Why get so worked up about shit if it isent true...its a fucking lame car forum on the internet that only us people read. So whats the big deal.
Exactly my point. I mean there are certain things that I would say is wrong, like making fun of someone's deceased friend/family member other any other sensitive topic, but other than that, it's just the internet.
So did anyone read the paper today? A COP leaving a cop party hit a car in the parking lot and than left without reporting it or anything (hit and run). So anyhow the car hit was one of the workers at the BAR, yes I said bar! So anyhow it was knowent hat the cop was the one that hit and run and he was interviewed and pretty much just got a slap on the back of the hand and told not to do that again. NOW we come tot the real kicker, neither the bartender or the COP had any insurrance!!!!
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
devlish
01-24-2008, 04:36 PM
Why get so worked up about shit if it isent true...its a fucking lame car forum on the internet that only us people read. So whats the big deal.
Exactly my point. I mean there are certain things that I would say is wrong, like making fun of someone's deceased friend/family member other any other sensitive topic, but other than that, it's just the internet.http://www.tonyskansascity.com/tonyskansascity/internetfight.jpg
devlish
01-24-2008, 04:40 PM
So did anyone read the paper today? A COP leaving a cop party hit a car in the parking lot and than left without reporting it or anything (hit and run). So anyhow the car hit was one of the workers at the BAR, yes I said bar! So anyhow it was knowent hat the cop was the one that hit and run and he was interviewed and pretty much just got a slap on the back of the hand and told not to do that again. NOW we come tot the real kicker, neither the bartender or the COP had any insurrance!!!!
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
its all about who you know... i know a few bar owners... and the stories about the cops in this town are downright wrong.... some of the shit people get away with for knowing the right people is just not fair!>!>!
Some cops suck some do not...bottoms line...I know alot of good cops....
LMFAO!!!! Bottom line I know alot of good cops. LMFAO!!!!!
I know of alot of bad cops too!!!
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helby
01-26-2008, 10:50 AM
Ok whatever vpt..dont worry I called up a few of my friends who are cops gave them your addy to keep a eye on....your welcome...be careful! ha
LOL good! That will help with all the theifs around here trying to steel cars and parts and whatnot.
It would be about time they start keeping a watchfull eye around the city insted of just trying to pull people over all the time to make money...
You forget that I am also friends with just about half the police force and related to just about the other half.
I wouldn't need cops if we had the shoot to kill laws like texas than watch the fuck out if I see you by one of my cars!!!
Yah because that shit happens every day in texas... :roll:
of all the states i have to admitt that Texas is my favorite... the people are really nice and everything... well, at least that's the way it was in Dallas/ Fort Worth...
Greg86z28
01-26-2008, 11:49 AM
Wisconsin.
helby
01-26-2008, 11:53 AM
ya forgot that one...or minnesota...even tho we got more lakes then them...:)
Pointdsm
01-26-2008, 01:52 PM
Texas, Tennessee, and I agree the Carolinas are awesome. I love the redneck southern states, i could care less about the Northeast and California.
TomKat
01-26-2008, 01:59 PM
There are some really really nice Mustangs for sale in Texas. :roll:
i like certain parts of TN...like memphis andnashville...but i hate texas....hate...sucks balls.
Bristol, TN is very nice... been there twice to see the NASCAR race... awesome track... about the size of GSS... i've also been to just about all the southern states and i have decided that once i get enough money saved up i am gettin the heck out of this cold weather and goin south... :lol: ... i'm either thinkin texas or one of the carolinas... the carolinas are also awesome...
There are some really really nice Mustangs for sale in Texas. :roll:
YES! Great mustangs indeed! However there are some great crx's down there.
I do agree that texas sucks ass and if they want to be a seperate state they should be. But No matter how retared they are I still like the self defense laws and whatnot. Just guess how much crime (robberies) would go down if you could shoot the little bastards! I know I would never think about robbing anyone.
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