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I left my puter on 24-7 for the last 5 years and I think the hard drive is just fucked. I can wipe out the hard drive and do a reinstall and the thing still runs like crap. So, I have this skinnier than most puter cases, dell and I was woundering if anyone knows if I need a small case specific hard drive or will just a normal hard drive fit? Any suggestions on a good hard drive? Best buy be good enough? Anything else I should replace while I'm at it?
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-05-2007, 08:39 AM
I left my puter on 24-7 for the last 5 years and I think the hard drive is just fucked. I can wipe out the hard drive and do a reinstall and the thing still runs like crap. So, I have this skinnier than most puter cases, dell and I was woundering if anyone knows if I need a small case specific hard drive or will just a normal hard drive fit? Any suggestions on a good hard drive? Best buy be good enough? Anything else I should replace while I'm at it?
most likely a standard HDD will fit just fine. I can get you something used for free if you want. otherwise I can also get you something new for cheap. Are you sure its the Hard drive however???
No I'm not sure, but 5 years of non stop friction on a metal disc can't be good.?.
If that didn't do it I am sure all of the porn, virus's, windows reinstalls, ect. help take a toll.
What else is left besides motherboard to make it slow?
SgtRauksauff
09-05-2007, 12:04 PM
Did it suddenly start performing different than normal, or has this been just sort of a gradual slowdown? I'm assuming that you're running Windows 2000 or XP as the operating system.
If you do a lot of creating, copying, and deleting of files, the hard drive can become fragmented, meaning that one file may be spread out to several different places on the hard drive. A defragmentation (start/programs/accessories/system tools/disk defragmentation) can help a lot sometimes.
Also, if the drive is nearly full, sometimes the free space is fragmented, and since the operating system uses "Virtual Memory" when the system's RAM gets full, that can slow things down as it seeks across the disk to use the VM.
I'd suggest, that after the defrag, you change the systems Pagefile (what it uses as virtual memory) to a specific size (1.5 to 2 times the amount of system RAM) rather than letting the OS choose its size. To get there, you can right-click on "My Computer" then select properties, then advanced, performance, then depending on win2k or xp, go in another level, and change the virtual memory size.
A newer hard drive could help, especially one with a larger cache, or a higher rpm. 7200rpm drives are noticeably faster than 5400 ones, as 8mb cache ones are a little quicker than 4mb cache ones. Another big speed increase can be had on the data transfer speed, depending on what your motherboard will support.
if it was a sudden change in speed, it could be that one of the RAM modules is starting to fail, which is an easy fix as well.
I'd also make sure to clean the dust and such out of your heatsink and fan on the motherboard, since that will keep heat in, which will eventually make it fail, and sometimes the systems will limit processor speed when the temperature gets too high.
good luck...
--sarge
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-05-2007, 03:59 PM
there are lots of things that will cause a computer to run slow. Hard Drives should last longer than 5 years, I see them go 7+ years all the time. would you like me to drop off a used Hard Drive for you to try? I could even pre-load it with windows XP Home or Pro, and all you will have to do is install it, turn the system on, let it load, and put in your WinXP key.
Did it suddenly start performing different than normal, or has this been just sort of a gradual slowdown? I'm assuming that you're running Windows 2000 or XP as the operating system.
If you do a lot of creating, copying, and deleting of files, the hard drive can become fragmented, meaning that one file may be spread out to several different places on the hard drive. A defragmentation (start/programs/accessories/system tools/disk defragmentation) can help a lot sometimes.
Also, if the drive is nearly full, sometimes the free space is fragmented, and since the operating system uses "Virtual Memory" when the system's RAM gets full, that can slow things down as it seeks across the disk to use the VM.
I'd suggest, that after the defrag, you change the systems Pagefile (what it uses as virtual memory) to a specific size (1.5 to 2 times the amount of system RAM) rather than letting the OS choose its size. To get there, you can right-click on "My Computer" then select properties, then advanced, performance, then depending on win2k or xp, go in another level, and change the virtual memory size.
A newer hard drive could help, especially one with a larger cache, or a higher rpm. 7200rpm drives are noticeably faster than 5400 ones, as 8mb cache ones are a little quicker than 4mb cache ones. Another big speed increase can be had on the data transfer speed, depending on what your motherboard will support.
if it was a sudden change in speed, it could be that one of the RAM modules is starting to fail, which is an easy fix as well.
I'd also make sure to clean the dust and such out of your heatsink and fan on the motherboard, since that will keep heat in, which will eventually make it fail, and sometimes the systems will limit processor speed when the temperature gets too high.
good luck...
--sarge
I've done it all many many times.
there are lots of things that will cause a computer to run slow. Hard Drives should last longer than 5 years, I see them go 7+ years all the time. would you like me to drop off a used Hard Drive for you to try? I could even pre-load it with windows XP Home or Pro, and all you will have to do is install it, turn the system on, let it load, and put in your WinXP key.
I'm not saying it is completely shot, I just think the hard drive surface had been run on for so long that it isn't all nice and good anymore.
The 7+ years, are those continualy running 24 hours a day 7 days a week like mine?
Plus I have done ALOT of gaming, reinstalls, ect. that I think are very hard on a hard drive.?
Thanks for the offer to try one but I think if I'm going to do it I will just get a new one. I have an old gateway case that I have been wanting to put everything in for the longest time too. Mainly because it is a normal size case and I could get my radeon card to sit in there right. Plus there will be more room for fans, air, and junk.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-06-2007, 11:49 AM
well, if you are not using your computer, the hard drive is most likely set to shut itself off after an hour or so of no activity. If you want a new HDD, PM me and I can get you some good prices.
It really doesn't, I can come down by the puter just about any time and I can hear the hard drive running. Maybe I should just get a whole new puter.
I'll pm you for some info and prices and whatnot. Maybe we can get a pr3 into this pig and make it real fast!
Extremedsm
09-06-2007, 05:02 PM
Quit looking at so much porn!!! :lol:
Crazy Jon
09-07-2007, 11:30 AM
Frank didnt you loose a
puter to porn
Porn is just natural, thats like telling a kid to not run around.
Extremedsm
09-07-2007, 06:19 PM
Frank didnt you loose a
puter to porn
3 million cookies and counting when the quest to save the hard drive was given up. Damn porn.
devlish
09-08-2007, 10:45 AM
porn +2
frank 0
VPT 0
Well, here goes it. See everyone in a week after I mess up the puter and buy a new one. :shock:
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-10-2007, 02:21 PM
Well, here goes it. See everyone in a week after I mess up the puter and buy a new one. :shock:
maybe ASM and Computers can do some trading with VPT and bait.
Well, computer is just like new again! I would like to thank dizmm from over at ASM computers for hooking a guy up with some kick ass puter parts! 8)
devlish
09-10-2007, 04:06 PM
yeah, ASM & 'Puters has hooked this guy up a few times too with some sweet compy deals.
Downloading windows update 7 of 82....
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-10-2007, 04:20 PM
Downloading windows update 7 of 82....
thats your first batch, you'll have more
Downloading windows update 7 of 82....
thats your first batch, you'll have more
This is my 5th batch so far.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-10-2007, 04:33 PM
Downloading windows update 7 of 82....
thats your first batch, you'll have more
This is my 5th batch so far.
ha, they need to just come out with another service pack.
All done with IE 7 and all.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-10-2007, 05:08 PM
All done with IE 7 and all.
must be that nice fast charter internet. :roll:
Oh yah charter is the best! :lol:
Is the send and recieve address writen out like pop3.charter.com or what? I can never remember if it has a . between the pop3 and charter or not or if it is net or com.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-11-2007, 09:38 AM
what I have seen they could be:
incoming: mail.charter.net or incoming.charter.net or pop.charter.net
outgoing: mail.charter.net or outgoing.charter.net or smtp.charter.net
SPSRA
09-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Speaking of compy's... I fired up Urban Terror last night for the first time in about three years. Found out I was a couple versions behind and had to update somewhat. Eventually I was shooting peoples heads off like in the good ol' days. There was only one thing missing though...Jeske and VPT. Do you guys still play this at all anymore. Maybe we should get another LAN party going sometime.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-11-2007, 01:07 PM
Speaking of compy's... I fired up Urban Terror last night for the first time in about three years. Found out I was a couple versions behind and had to update somewhat. Eventually I was shooting peoples heads off like in the good ol' days. There was only one thing missing though...Jeske and VPT. Do you guys still play this at all anymore. Maybe we should get another LAN party going sometime.
speaking of gaming, "alexsmede" has entered the world of professional gaming in Counter-Strike:Source.
devlish
09-11-2007, 01:33 PM
"professional gaming"
what a f*cking joke!!!!
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-11-2007, 01:36 PM
"professional gaming"
what a f*cking joke!!!!
no joke, he makes money and is paid for it.
SgtRauksauff
09-11-2007, 03:44 PM
All done with IE 7 and all.
man, you went and ruined a perfectly good system.....
How fun is urT? say, compared to cs:s when it's not full of retards or whiners?
--sarge
devlish
09-11-2007, 03:52 PM
no joke, he makes money and is paid for it.
yes, i completely understand this. but i still think its a joke.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-11-2007, 03:53 PM
no joke, he makes money and is paid for it.
yes, i completely understand this. but i still think its a joke.
yeah, he is moving to NC for this reason.
EVILUTION
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
SPSRA.... I haven't played UT in awhile but my new machine with BIG monitor should make it much more enjoyable than it was on my slow arse notebook.
VPT.... curious, what parts did you replace.
Who is alexmede?
devlish
09-11-2007, 04:32 PM
.
Who is alexmede? dizmms younger brother... Alex Smedegard
what I have seen they could be:
incoming: mail.charter.net or incoming.charter.net or pop.charter.net
outgoing: mail.charter.net or outgoing.charter.net or smtp.charter.net
pop.charter.net was the one. Thanks much guy!
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-11-2007, 04:48 PM
what I have seen they could be:
incoming: mail.charter.net or incoming.charter.net or pop.charter.net
outgoing: mail.charter.net or outgoing.charter.net or smtp.charter.net
pop.charter.net was the one. Thanks much guy!
cool, then your outgoing is the smtp.charter.net
Speaking of compy's... I fired up Urban Terror last night for the first time in about three years. Found out I was a couple versions behind and had to update somewhat. Eventually I was shooting peoples heads off like in the good ol' days. There was only one thing missing though...Jeske and VPT. Do you guys still play this at all anymore. Maybe we should get another LAN party going sometime.
Someone has my fucking CD for the last 3 years!
VPT.... curious, what parts did you replace.
hard drive
All done with IE 7 and all.
man, you went and ruined a perfectly good system.....
How fun is urT? say, compared to cs:s when it's not full of retards or whiners?
--sarge
I wasn't very excited about 7 either but eh whatever.
urt or UT?
urban terror is way way way way way better than that 1980's graffics and game play cs. Urban terror you can't shoot threw walls and the grenades aren't the size of basketballs. UT has real maps not just a arena that people run around in circles in. I just like UT much more than cs for just about every aspect of the game.
SPSRA
09-12-2007, 08:18 AM
Someone has my fucking CD for the last 3 years!
Turns out you don't need Quake 3 anymore. You can install a standalone version for %100 free. www.urbanterror.net
EVILUTION
09-12-2007, 08:58 AM
SPSRA.... are you calling me out???
I think you need a SPAS face lift.
Someone has my fucking CD for the last 3 years!
Turns out you don't need Quake 3 anymore. You can install a standalone version for %100 free. www.urbanterror.net
Yes I noticed that last night and than I was up till 3am......
SR8 owns joo!
EVILUTION
09-12-2007, 12:33 PM
I kicked off the download at lunch. Should be ready to lose sleep by tonight.
SPSRA
09-12-2007, 12:45 PM
should I being looking for snowseeker or vpt or evilution or jeske. :lol:
EVILUTION
09-12-2007, 03:50 PM
Search for JESKE
SPSRA
09-13-2007, 08:49 AM
Search for JESKE
Or should I search for YELLOW, because I VPT and I didn't see you last night.
EVILUTION
09-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Search for .... suck my cock instead.
SPSRA
09-13-2007, 10:06 AM
I love you too.
SgtRauksauff
09-13-2007, 10:12 AM
All done with IE 7 and all.
man, you went and ruined a perfectly good system.....
How fun is urT? say, compared to cs:s when it's not full of retards or whiners?
--sarge
I wasn't very excited about 7 either but eh whatever.
urt or UT?
urban terror is way way way way way better than that 1980's graffics and game play cs. Urban terror you can't shoot threw walls and the grenades aren't the size of basketballs. UT has real maps not just a arena that people run around in circles in. I just like UT much more than cs for just about every aspect of the game.
I was asking about Urban Terror (urT), not Unreal Tournament (UT), but compared to Counter-Strike:Source, (cs:s). I really actually love the Source engine, as it has MUCH better physics and textures than the original HL engine. I do think it was somewhat lame for basically no real new maps for cs:s though.
Urban Terror uses the Quake3 Arena engine, correct? I haven'tplayed that game in several years, since compared to the newer games, the graphics are kinda poopy and cartoony.
I haven't actually played any multiplayer FPS in awhile, just been too damned busy, but I was making my way through STALKER:shadows of Chernobyl (very very good game engine) and FEAR.
I played a little bit of R6:Vegas, but I'm kinda disappointed that they just made a port of the console game, rather than a real PC game. the controls and UI are just lacking when done that way. FPS games should never have been put on a console, it's just lame.
So, depending on when you guys decide to have another LAN, I'll try to come up and play.
--sarge
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-13-2007, 10:26 AM
if you guys really want a LAN, just bring your compy's to northside here. I have plenty of workstations with LCD's and everything setup with a gigabit router.
EVILUTION
09-13-2007, 11:26 AM
^^ I think I just came in my pants.
SPSRA
09-13-2007, 12:46 PM
can we put empty soda cans up in your rafters too, so that you can find them even two years later.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
09-13-2007, 01:29 PM
can we put empty soda cans up in your rafters too, so that you can find them even two years later.
I suppose, thats free money for me.
can we put empty soda cans up in your rafters too, so that you can find them even two years later.
Thats funny!
Crazy Jon
09-13-2007, 10:06 PM
Free is GooD :shock:
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