2012 Ice Season

[TomKat]

Talked to our CWSCC plow guy last night (Clay). He has found us a new larger shallower location in Wausau.

The ice season is looking good. Now we need some cold for freezing the water.

[matt]

And where is this mystery location?

[krazyk]

I really think dubay is perfect.. where else are we gonna have elevation changes in the ice?? cuz honestly thats the best part!

[99Cobra]

Is this mystery location on lake wausau?

[CoBraVnm]

I really don't care WHERE it is, just WHEN it is. Go away 75 degree days.

[devlish]

I really think dubay is perfect.. where else are we gonna have elevation changes in the ice?? cuz honestly thats the best part!

+1 .

[devlish]

it's supposed to be another COLD winter...

http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2011/590x393_10041805_2011-12%20winter%20highlights%20us.jpg

[Dizmm]

cant wait!!!

[TomKat]

Is this mystery location on lake wausau?

I believe so.

[KARKRAFT]

I wanna go ice racing.

[fronzoos]

I'm bringing out the 240! Working on getting it ready as we speak. :)

[krazyk]

I believe so.

if its gonna be that little bay right off of NN by the bridge then its a fail.. ive NEVER EVER seen any elevation changes on that.

[VPT]

To far to travel. The further away it is the less people will go. Know why there were so many people on McDill in winter? Because it was a mile away.

[fronzoos]

Closer for me! lol. I know a lot of lake wausau is kinda rough as well, but should be good as long as ya stay away from where everyone usually drives for ice fishing. And watch out for drunk people. lol!

[TomKat]

To far to travel. The further away it is the less people will go. Know why there were so many people on McDill in winter? Because it was a mile away.

Well the ambitious people will travel to enjoy events like these.

You can always sit at home and watch TV. That's easy.

[fronzoos]

I cant wait for ice season, I'm stoked to finally have a proper car for winter racing duty.

[DirtyBird]

Well the ambitious people will travel to enjoy events like these.

You can always sit at home and watch TV. That's easy.
I prolly will stay close to home again. Id rather spend 3 hrs on my sled then 3hrs driving to and from the frozen lake up there. lots of ice down here too.

[CoBraVnm]

I agree TK. This will make it more enjoyable for the troll faces who like to be lazy :)

[VPT]

Well the ambitious people will travel to enjoy events like these.

You can always sit at home and watch TV. That's easy.



Events? It used to be just the meeting spot for winter and people racing in circles. Go out when you want, go in when you've had enough for awhile, risk of getting bumped.

Now its all rules and order, sit and watch one car drive around.

[EVILUTION]

I wonder what Mcdill will be like without the water. I'm betting one could make a rally course out there!

[SgtRauksauff]

lets do it.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Is there something wrong with Dubay? Not going to travel further either, I already don't go to FVSCC events because they are so far away. Oh well, I hate the cold anyways.

[TomKat]

Is there something wrong with Dubay?

DuBay is fine, but our plow guy says this new location is bigger and better. And he'll plow it.

[austin]

if the new spot is bigger will the course get faster. i like faster. ill be racin with you guys more this year no matter where the track is.

[Scrad]

I thought we were going to go back to Waupaca and race around the island on the Chain O' Lakes.

I personaly don't think I'd drive up to Wausau much to ice race.

[devlish]

^ or a SINK course. i hear it's insanely unsafe to walk out there right now, it's all marsh and sinkholes i guess.

[TomKat]

Geez. We got a couple of car guys that don't like to drive.

It's not that far away from the Lake DuBay location.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Not everyone is as gun ho about ice racing as you happen to be. Make the events further and those people are less likely to come. 80% of the time I came to help out.. not bash my car up on a frozen lake.

I'm not saying don't change it, just stating that my attendance will not be likely, due to those circumstances.

[snoxracer183]

I'd like the events to happen on the river right outside my house. If they are not, I'm not f'n coming. F you guys!

[KARKRAFT]

I'll drive to canada with no heat in the CRX...as long as someone can convince my employer that I deserve more than 3-4 days off a month.

[DirtyBird]

^They cant, if they give you more time off, then soon everybody else will too. Then youll want even morr, and then everyone will just want off all year. Lol

Just saying, but the only thing ill prolly go to dubay for this winter, is to icefish.

[supradjza80]

I'll drive to canada with no heat in the CRX...as long as someone can convince my employer that I deserve more than 3-4 days off a month.

How are you going to pay for all the lazy people in the world if you don't work every day? :cool:

[Colin255]

Wausau, Dubya - its a horse a piece to me. Pick a spot and I'll be there.

[KARKRAFT]

How are you going to pay for all the lazy people in the world if you don't work every day? :cool:

I'll leave that up to you. I think I'm goin to turn into a democrat and try to live off your money. Then I can go racing more.

[SgtRauksauff]

ok, so , instead of having to drive only two and a half hours, I'll now have to drive one hundred fifty freakin' minutes? dammit!

waah.

[Shane]

What a bunch of whiny vag's I still plan on driving from Appleton again this year just like a couple of the other valley boys! Hopefully the STi lasts a whole season this year!

[KARKRAFT]

What a bunch of whiny vag's I still plan on driving from Appleton again this year just like a couple of the other valley boys! Hopefully the STi lasts a whole season this year!

I like vag's....

[snoxracer183]

Lake Dubay to Lake Wausau is 15-20 fuckin minutes max. Grow a pair you f'n pansies. If you want to wine about it go find your own plow truck and driver willing to spend hours beating up his truck to plow your own course.

[Deadly_Evolution]

^LMAO at that comment, but who are you referring to? If it's at all directed my way. I came out to Dubay to help, because I was asked to specifically. Which obviously I did. Never came out with intentions to race as I'm horrible at ice racing, and even when told to go make some runs I generally declined. Off the top of my head, estimated 6 times out for the whole season, might have ran two events one of which was after the actual event just for fun. I'll just assume your comments are towards someone else, and LOL with you.

If I was going to events with full intentions to compete in the events sure, where ever, but to drive an extra hour (there and back combined) to help out. Well it's easy to see why I would prefer to see Dubay as the location.

[Dizmm]

I think SnoX's post was directed to anyone complaining about the small extra drive.

^LMAO at that comment, but who are you referring to? If it's at all directed my way. I came out to Dubay to help, because I was asked to specifically. Which obviously I did. Never came out with intentions to race as I'm horrible at ice racing, and even when told to go make some runs I generally declined.

Wont get good at it ever if you dont keep at it.

[Deadly_Evolution]

I think SnoX's post was directed to anyone complaining about the small extra drive.



Wont get good at it ever if you dont keep at it.

Ha, but my wallet won't ever stay full if I have to keep doing bumper replacements on a yearly basis. It's a dirty catch 22.

Hmmmmm maybe if I had a nice bumper bar that would help, god where could I get one of those! Looks like I need to make a call to Rally Innovations or some internet site.

[Dizmm]

Ha, but my wallet won't ever stay full if I have to keep doing bumper replacements on a yearly basis. It's a dirty catch 22.

One of these will save you money then:
http://www.rallybar.com/images/IMG_2567.jpg

[snoxracer183]

That was directed at all you sally vag's complaining about driving an extra 15 min one direction

[Shane]

One of these will save you money then:
http://www.rallybar.com/images/IMG_2567.jpg


Hmmm looks like that RallyBar could use a v2 version for 04/05's, How many more of them you have? May be interested!!

[Deadly_Evolution]

Hmmmmm maybe if I had a nice bumper bar that would help, god where could I get one of those! Looks like I need to make a call to Rally Innovations or some internet site.

One of these will save you money then:
See first quote edit.

That was directed at all you sally vag's complaining about driving an extra 15 min one direction
Guess it wasn't towards me at all since I'm not a sally vag. If I was going out to ice race.. it wouldn't matter to me. Just to help though, not so ideal.

[CoBraVnm]

I agree with snox mostly because I live in Wausau and work in Point it really makes no nevermind to me either way. AND vag. There's my $.02

[Getsideways]

That was directed at all you sally vag's complaining about driving an extra 15 min one direction

Im not proud to say im on the board with you, from the way you post on here.
You should remember your place as a leader and keep your comments a little more professional when it comes to events and such.

[EVILUTION]

Smackdown!

[snoxracer183]

Im not proud to say im on the board with you, from the way you post on here.
You should remember your place as a leader and keep your comments a little more professional when it comes to events and such.

LOL I would hope you figured out that I am messin around by now you sally vag :cool:

[VPT]

Kids...

[SgtRauksauff]

This reminds me of a quote I heard from Betty White the other day...

“Why do people say “grow some balls”? Balls are weak and sensitive! If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina! Those things take a pounding!”


LOL!

--sarge

[Deadly_Evolution]

This reminds me of a quote I heard from Betty White the other day...

“Why do people say “grow some balls”? Balls are weak and sensitive! If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina! Those things take a pounding!”


LOL!

--sarge

Sadly I've heard this too.. about oh 75 times from women on FB! You kinda get the hint that most women are proud their vag can take a pounding. Weird!

[CoBraVnm]

http://icerace.shocauto.com/images/Andy-tires2.jpg

Mmmmmmm

[TomKat]

Ohhhh. Nice tires.

[CoBraVnm]

I know. I better get started. The set I was going to purchase turned out to be junk so I think I'm just going to make my own.

[snoxracer183]

Does Clay still want to plow a DuBay course or does he only want to do the Wausau one?

[TomKat]

Just the Wausau one.

We can still run on DuBay. The Wausau location will be our main spot however.

[fronzoos]

I need to start studding. :/ Ugh. Not looking forward to it at all.

[fronzoos]

This reminds me of a quote I heard from Betty White the other day...

“Why do people say “grow some balls”? Balls are weak and sensitive! If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina! Those things take a pounding!”


LOL!

--sarge


Bwahahaha!

[snoxracer183]

Just the Wausau one.

We can still run on DuBay. The Wausau location will be our main spot however.

Do we have any DuBay plow truck leads?

[Draven8795]

Do we have any DuBay plow truck leads?

If you dont sell the 2.5 hook a plow to that

[VPT]

I could fab up a lexan plow for some awd car.

[86 325e]

Hey,

I'm really interested in Ice Racing this year. I'm from Chicago. I was wondering what your rules and regulations and classes are?

Thanks

If I am thread jacking, sorry.

[Dizmm]

regulations? none....

classes:

Studded
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD
Snow Tire
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD
All-Season
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD

[supradjza80]

regulations? none....

classes:

Studded
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD
Snow Tire
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD
All-Season
-AWD
-FWD
-RWD

That looks great.

Or we could have a class for each type of all season and snow tire, and for all types of studs. I think that sounds even better...

[TomKat]

If we get enough studded cars. We may break up the studded classes up further.

[86 325e]

How does it all work?

[abot316]

How does it all work?

We drive out on the ice, swap the tires, and have a blast beating the crap out of cars like red haired step child seals. Then repeat.

[05Saab]

^Basically haha

We plow out a course, or mark it out with cones. Then setup a start and finishline with timing equipment. then send out cars. Fastest car in each tire class wins!

[Deadly_Evolution]

Just a question, for those who have experience.

What provides more traction on the ice? Bolted tires or tires with screws threaded into the tire (more like a factory studded winter tire)
Is the difference in traction substantial?

[Dizmm]

Just a question, for those who have experience.

What provides more traction on the ice? Bolted tires or tires with screws threaded into the tire (more like a factory studded winter tire)
Is the difference in traction substantial?

factory studded winter tires are worthless. Tirerack did some tests, and the X-pilot snows stopped better than winterforces with the studs.

Are you talking about the Kold-Kutters?

Depending how you build the bolted tires, they offer the most grip unless you do the "VelcroTire™. " tires.

[Deadly_Evolution]

factory studded winter tires are worthless. Tirerack did some tests, and the X-pilot snows stopped better than winterforces with the studs.

Are you talking about the Kold-Kutters?

Depending how you build the bolted tires, they offer the most grip unless you do the "VelcroTire™. " tires.

Yes I was referring to Kold kutters, if the grip loss was say less than 10%-20% short of a bolted tires I would consider trying a set of those out as they are a lot easier and fairly cheap to produce. I'm still on the fence about the ice racing, having never been able to try studs out to see if I like it. Ice racing might be fun if I had traction.. At the current state of my driving ability, was not having to much fun with just the snow tires. I just don't seem to have a nack for it.

I also liked the idea of not having to worry about air leaking out of the tire, I'm going to be doing some research to see if I can come up with some idea on how to better seal bolted style studs.

[Dizmm]

you can try my bolted tires on your WRX. Bolted tires offer at least twice the grip of the kold-kutters.

First year of ice racing, dont expect to be really good, unless your name is Kevin Rowe.

I sucked for the first 2 years. Stick with it and you'll get better at it, and your skills will carry over into summer.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Great.. so if you sucked for two years.. I've got 4 or more to even come close :( I'd love to give the studs a try if they DON'T rub. I'll also need some means of protecting the front end. hmmmmm.

[Dizmm]

Great.. so if you sucked for two years.. I've got 4 or more to even come close :( I'd love to give the studs a try if they DON'T rub. I'll also need some means of protecting the front end. hmmmmm.

they didnt rub on shane's slammed STi, you should be ok.

Yes we should get a bar made up for you. VPT!!!!!

[mrslysly]

Lake Dubay to Lake Wausau is 15-20 fuckin minutes max. Grow a pair you f'n pansies. If you want to wine about it go find your own plow truck and driver willing to spend hours beating up his truck to plow your own course.

That in a corvette on 245 summer tires is a big difference. Unless you got a truck and trailer I could use for each event?? Then I could take the studs with me instead of having to beg other people to haul my shit and having to pay for gas for my car and their trip to haul my shit.

Please??

[Dizmm]

I have a tire trailer for this winter. I'll haul your shit Noah.

[86 325e]

I had a few question.

When does the season begin?

How do you stud tires? How many studs per wheel?

Who else here is running either studded RWD or non studded RWD?

[Shane]

they didnt rub on shane's slammed STi, you should be ok.

Yes we should get a bar made up for you. VPT!!!!!


Yup they worked great! And were a shit ton of fun!! Just don't beat Andy on his tires in your car by a couple seconds or he will blow your shit up HAHAHA

I'm thinkin bout rollin with the All Seasons again if i race, beat a lot of cars, even sno tired cars on them all seasons!

[TomKat]

I had a few question.

When does the season begin?

How do you stud tires? How many studs per wheel?

Who else here is running either studded RWD or non studded RWD?

The season usually begins around the 2nd week of January, but this of course depends on the weather. Some years there is never safe ice. Some years the ice is safe in December.

Here is a good thread thanks to Sarge on studding tires.

http://www.fvscc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443

Noah runs studded tire class with his Vette. I sometimes run my pickup in RWD snow tire class. Bartek's Miata also runs with studded tires in this class. A few random BMWs also.

[KARKRAFT]

First year of ice racing, dont expect to be really good, unless your name is Kevin Rowe.

Thanks Andy! And you're right that it transfers to autox. Before this year I had a total of 4 events in 5 years, and I've been able to trophy a couple times, in 2 different cars.

[Deadly_Evolution]

http://www.fvscc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443[/url]



Tom I think you need to add Abbots studded tire how to also. That guys knows how to make a studded tire with very few studs, lol.

[Colin255]

I'll still be too lazy to stud tires - maybe even so lazy I'll jump to a different car...

[supradjza80]

Oh I like how that sounds^^

[TomKat]

I'll still be too lazy to stud tires - maybe even so lazy I'll jump to a different car...

Uh oh. What are you getting?

[86 325e]

Does it matter how many studs I use?

[ZXTUNER]

the more the better

[TomKat]

Does it matter how many studs I use?

More is better, but you can put in too many and not be able to get the tires mounted on rims.

Did you plan on running with CWSCC in Wausau or FVSCC on Winnebago?

[86 325e]

More is better, but you can put in too many and not be able to get the tires mounted on rims.

Did you plan on running with CWSCC in Wausau or FVSCC on Winnebago?

Winnebego is closer to me, but they have to many rules and regulations. Ill peobably try out both. I m not sure if we can use home made studded tires in Winnebego. I know someone that lives in Wausau that has a lot of spare parts for my car so im probably going to be up in Wausau more often.

[TomKat]

You can use home made studded tires on Winnebago (FVSCC). They have regulations for bolted tires, but good luck finding any information about it.

We will gladly accept you at the Wausau (CWSCC) events no matter what kind of tire you are running.

[mrslysly]

the more the better

Not necessarily true, my studded tires only have 162 per tire and thats on 275s. The vette has amazing grip on clean ice but once you get some snow its slippery. My hypothesis on this is that by spacing the studs out more each stud grips a larger contact patch of ice so it sticks into it and grips instead of just shredding it up if you have the studs to close. Which works great on cleaner ice but hurts once you get some snow (such as if people go off course and track snow back onto it).

You also have to consider your vehicle weight, get to many studs in the tire and then you may not have enough weight to push the studs far enough into the ice at speed to get maximum grip.

Then there is also tire width, skinnier tires work better with snow but you lose width for more studs and stud spacing on clean ice.

And to just throw another option to consider to make it even more complex is your stud pattern. I went for an alternating pattern to optimize the number of studs contacting the ice at any given point and to optimize the number of studs coming into contact next as the tire rotates. I did this for multiple slip angles (straight line grip, turning grip, sliding). I also configured the stud pattern to make sure that each stud doesn't follow to close to the next one as the tire is rotating to make sure its not just digging into the hole in the ice the previous stud just made.

Just my $.02

[SgtRauksauff]

I'm kinda thinkin' real hard now.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/sv650s05/CrazyIceRider.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/sv650s05/a.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/sv650s05/Ice%20Riding/P1180026.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/sv650s05/Ice%20Riding/P1180033.jpg

that last is an SV650 ('05, one year newer than mine) with kold-kutter tires set up by a girl in Madison!

[KARKRAFT]

Do.it.

[Shane]

even the SV's ice tires have chicken strips on em.. HAHAHAHA theres room for a few more studs there :) It sure would be fun! I know a guy that takes his F4I that he stunts and stuff with out on Winnebego during the winter.. would be nuts doin 130 or faster on the ice...

[wally7714]

I`m newb here and definitely coming for some ice action this winter

[TomKat]

I`m newb here and definitely coming for some ice action this winter

Sounds good. I'm sure you'll have some fun.

You drive the EVO in the winter? What kind of tires do you have?

[wally7714]

Sounds good. I'm sure you'll have some fun.

You drive the EVO in the winter? What kind of tires do you have?

Just got Michelin X-ICE Xi2 they`re not studded but heard they got pretty good grip on ice and handle decent on a dry

[DoWork]

There was a good covering of ice over my fishing spot on the Eau Claire Flowage today :drool:

[Dizmm]

There was a good covering of ice over my fishing spot on the Eau Claire Flowage today :drool:

lets go ice racing!

[snoxracer183]

Yup, first time I've seen ice in spots on Lake DuBay on my way to work this year! I almost drove out there!

[DoWork]

^let us know how that goes if you decide to give it a shot lol

[sleepersoob02]

I plan on coming back up from Platteville. Goingto try my luck with the At's this year and maybe make up a studded set. What im more excited about is my clubs secret project car that will hopefully be running some ice rally this year :cool: 2200lbs and 150 whp, fwd studded, should be fun right?

[TomKat]

Clubs secret project car. Oh boy.

CWSCC needs a secret project car. We already have a secret agenda now we just need to compliment that with a secret car.

[KARKRAFT]

I want to drive a secret car. We need a secret ice car, and a secret 24 hrs of Lemons car.

[DirtyBird]

The super secret race camaro should hopefully be on the ice this winter. Tires are being devised as I type.

[snoxracer183]

Official SCCA LaCrosse Studded tire rule (posted 11/23/11)

I am impressed, I think this actually makes for a decent "standardization"

http://www.scclac.org/wp-content/uploads/2012-ice-tires.pdf

[SgtRauksauff]

awww, VelcroTire™ studding technique is not legal!

interesting note, their formula for number of studs (section width x 1.08) makes the 13" menards tire *technically* illegal.

155/80-13. section width = 155. 155 x 1.08 = 167.4. However, the tire has 168 studs. ILLEGAL, as it's over the allotted ratio.

heh.

That makes my 195/60-14 bald azenis viable for 210.6 studs per tire. I've only got 108 bolts in them right now.

winning!!!!!

[05Saab]

Hmmm...that means endless possibilities for my 12.5" wide tires lol

[Mr. Fuji]

Official SCCA LaCrosse Studded tire rule (posted 11/23/11)

I am impressed, I think this actually makes for a decent "standardization"

http://www.scclac.org/wp-content/uploads/2012-ice-tires.pdf

I agree.
Seems fair, but I would allow drywall screws.

[TomKat]

WAG for 2012 has an unlimted studded tire class.

VelcroTire™ for the win. It's what Charlie Sheen would run on his car.

[Getsideways]

Nice

[DoWork]

Just got the new turbo setup on the car tonight. I have a few things to wrap up and tuning will begin. I cant wait for ice!

[Colin255]

I hate this time of year - too cold and dark after work for outdoor fun, not cold enough for ice.

[abot316]

Just got the new turbo setup on the car tonight. I have a few things to wrap up and tuning will begin. I cant wait for ice!

Pics?

[DoWork]

I hate this time of year - too cold and dark after work for outdoor fun, not cold enough for ice.

Meh, thats why they make garage heaters!

Pics?

Not really anything noteable to take pics of. I will snap some pics just for you tonight if I get outside though. :cool:

[TomKat]

I hate this time of year - too cold and dark after work for outdoor fun, not cold enough for ice.

Sounds like road rallye season.

[DoWork]

Permanent shacks on Lake Wausau by Gullivers!!!!! I'm getting excited!

[Dizmm]

I'm excited too!

I have room for one more set of studded tires:

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/2011-12-10_22-52-27_849.jpg

[Extremedsm]

^I know where you can buy a set.

[devlish]

Hey... isn't our event coordinator snowx supposedyo be giving us daily updates ons ice thickness and conditions already?? :-)

[northsydryd]

ice was about 3 or 4 inches thick at the marsh on friday,its about 10*s colder out there then in town though

[snoxracer183]

I went to the boat landing by Gullivers where the ice shacks are on Saturday monring and the ice looked about 1"-1 1/2" thick there. Me nor the other random guy checking it out would walk out there. If they put ice shacks out there over the weekend they are insane...

[northsydryd]

^ nobody wants to hear that crap,make ice faster damnit!!!!

[Dizmm]

i stopped by dubay today. an ice fisherman said 5-6inches in our bay.

[VPT]

There was a truck on lake wausau yesterday...

[snoxracer183]

I'll go check out these stupid f'ers on lake Wausau after work. I passed over the south end of Lake Wausau today in Schofield and there is open water again...

[DoWork]

There was a truck on lake wausau yesterday...

Thats just nuts.....

I'll go check out these stupid f'ers on lake Wausau after work. I passed over the south end of Lake Wausau today in Schofield and there is open water again...

With temps being in the mid 30's for the better part of this week, I'd say the ones with permanent shacks should probably get their shit off before the shacks transform into fish cribs.

[VENM]

I'll go check out these stupid f'ers on lake Wausau after work. I passed over the south end of Lake Wausau today in Schofield and there is open water again...

Eric, give me a call and we can work out some details on Lake Wausau 715-241-9090. The plow truck is ready to rock!

[krazyk]

I'm currently sitting on a foot of ice up by minocqua.. been on 2 diff lakes today.. the first lake had am average of 5-8 inches.. this one has 10-12 in most places... I'm standing in water ontop of the ice though lol

[Kirsten]

Just FYI....a vehicle went through the ice yesterday on the Eau Plaine near Hwy C (Mosinee). One guy was rescued and they're still looking for the other one....please be careful!!!
(The guy they are looking for is a "family" connection - not related, but it's a short, but complicated explanation of the connection....)

[northsydryd]

update on my plow truck....its a peice of shit,dealership said the transfercase has to come down and get split to find out what broke inside.i dont want to fix it,but then again it doesnt look like well need it either.lol

[VPT]

update on my plow truck....its a peice of shit,dealership said the transfercase has to come down and get split to find out what broke inside.i dont want to fix it,but then again it doesnt look like well need it either.lol



Just an FYI, use transfer cases are only like $150-250. The bill to open one up and put parts in isn't normally worth it.

[ZXTUNER]

for a 2008?

[daltond88]

so i know this is a shot in the dark but by chance would anyone have a spare set of studded tires to borrow/rent this weekend?? if so that would be great.. hit me up with any details/offers 7158692257 would need to be 5x114.3 to go on a S2000

[VPT]

for a 2008?



Maybe a little more but I bet still cheap at a yard if they aren't a problematic item.

[DirtyBird]

Car-parts.com has them for 300 and up

[VPT]

Car-parts.com has them for 300 and up



Sure beats paying labor to open it up and throw in $100 a pop parts.

[Dizmm]

so i know this is a shot in the dark but by chance would anyone have a spare set of studded tires to borrow/rent this weekend?? if so that would be great.. hit me up with any details/offers 7158692257 would need to be 5x114.3 to go on a S2000

we should talk. I got a few sets of studded wheels ready to go.

[snoxracer183]

Goodbye ice

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Mosinee+WI+USWI0468?role=

[Dizmm]

it will take more than that to melt. the snow on top will help insulate the ice. this could be a good thing really. melt most of the snow thats on top. Probably help reduce the ruts.

[snoxracer183]

Its not cold enough at night to give a good re-freeze, the ice is going to be shit. Maybe if it would get down to like 15 at night we'd have a chance. Not at 25 though.

[DoWork]

Agreed. I hate to say it, but I think its over. Didn't we end about the same time last year because of a mid winter warmup and the ice being covered by slush?

[Dizmm]

i wouldn’t call this the end. the ice will be thick enough, however be prepared to lose bumpers and side skirts as the snow banks will be thick and heavy.

[DoWork]

<aint skeered.

No side skirts, and plenty of zip ties :D

[EVILUTION]

Man I love this weather! Best winter ever!

[Dizmm]

What a great sunday!

John, Tom, Peter, and I went to the SCCA-LAX Ice event today. the ice was great, Temps were perfect, couldnt have asked for more.

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3307.jpg

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3556.jpg

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3372.jpg

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3577.jpg

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3468.jpg

[KARKRAFT]

How did the C-dub do?

[Dizmm]

How did the C-dub do?

1st place AWD-Stud
1st place RWD-Stud
2nd place AWD-Rubber

[krazyk]

Given the conditions on dubay... If anyone is willing to drive 10-15 minutes further.. the ice on the eau plaine is very smooth and therr are a few areas with plenty of room to plow a nice sized track

[Mr. Fuji]

Thanks to Tom Cat and Andy for the invite, and hauling out my tires!

[KARKRAFT]

1st place AWD-Stud
1st place RWD-Stud
2nd place AWD-Rubber

2nd place??!! Wtf?

Haha. Good job guys.

[TomKat]

2nd place??!! Wtf?


Yeah I got schooled pretty badly by a WRX.

I did this several times today and those banks were like a rock. My Rallybar did its job as I still have a front bumper. Today was a lot of fun. Hope we can run there again next week.



http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice%20Racing%202012/IMG_3468.jpg

[supradjza80]

Yeah I got schooled pretty badly by a WRX.

He must have had brand new tires :sneaky:

[TomKat]

He must have had brand new tires :sneaky:

So do I dammit. Need to find a better excuse. ha ha. He was on Continental snow tires.

I think Sarge would say it's the superiority of the wagon design that beats any challengers.

[supradjza80]

Hey yours have a couple events on them. He probably ran stickers out there!

[KARKRAFT]

I would be game for a road trip next weekend. And yeah, must be the wagon.

[SgtRauksauff]

Good job! Sounds like a blast!

I spent the day taking apart my entire shifter linkage and fixing it. There were literally NO bushings in the knuckle that connects to the shift rod going into the transmission. So even when in gear, you could wobble the shifter like it was in neutral. Made it hard to shift sometimes, but now it's freakin' awesome! I found I've got a torn CV boot, though, and I want to replace the VC gaskets. (watch out for Charlie!!!)

MrFuji, How'd the tires work for you? I see by your first place they worked ok, but what're your impressions of them otherwise?

How was the course itself? is it a pretty decent venue?

--sarge

[austin]

oh man that looked like fun i should have come to that event to damn it

[snoxracer183]

Dizmm, did those studs meet the regulations of their rules? Or did no one even check?

[TomKat]

No and no.

[Dizmm]

No and no.

did too! but no one checked.

[Shane]

SWEET! hopefully no one checks my studs next weekend then.. :) Road trip! CWSCC representing first places? i think so!