RSD Friday August 3rd

[DontStopMe]

Anyone else actually wanna take there car to the track for a change?

[BadAss88GT]

Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm there for sure, looking for some action. You won't find any better track prep anywhere around, hope to see some of you Point guys there!!!

[Extremedsm]

Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm there for sure, looking for some action. You won't find any better track prep anywhere around, hope to see some of you Point guys there!!!

I hope Evil does not read the track prep part. :lol:

[BadAss88GT]

There isnt much that can be said negative about Brian's RSD prep. Guys are pulling 1.3x short times, if you cant hook on an RSD night, youre either following street tire cars through the water or you have chassis issues.

[BadAss88GT]

I know he's a big fan of WIR, lol.

I dont remember all his complaints, I know a big one was the rocks in the pits. God knows I agree with him 150%.

I also know he doesnt care for Brian's mouth on the microphone. Again, I agree, he has been alienating(sp?) the import crowd for years now.

Unfortunately, WIR doesnt give us much for opportunities to race, GLD is too damn far, and Rock Falls, so I'm told, isnt too big on track prep, but they are big on tech, which will give me problems. I can't get through NHRA tech at GLD with my illegal fuel lines, though I may take it down there and try, I'll have to let off before I go through the traps so I dont hit 11.49 and get kicked out.

Some of us dont have much choice, if we want to race at the track for a timeslip, WIR it is.

[TomKat]

I don't understand how a street tire car wrecks the track for cars with slicks?????

[Pointdsm]

rocks on the starting line..

[BadAss88GT]

The tread on street tires holds water. They drag that water up to the line. You can actually see it on the ground. Ever notice drag slicks have no tread?

[EVILUTION]

I would really like to know what a 1.3 short time feels like! I guess I'll have to launch my car down a hill or something.

[Extremedsm]

I would really like to know what a 1.3 short time feels like! I guess I'll have to launch my car down a hill or something.

LMFAO!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TomKat]

I would really like to know what a 1.3 short time feels like! I guess I'll have to launch my car down a hill or something.

I can help you push it off a cliff. :D

[TomKat]

The tread on street tires holds water. They drag that water up to the line. You can actually see it on the ground. Ever notice drag slicks have no tread?

Hmmm. Interesting. One thing to note though at WIR you CANNOT drive around the water box. In the past the cars with slicks backed into the water box. That seemed to work much better in my opinion.

Being forced to drive through the water blows. If you have an AWD car launching at the strip it is similar to racing on a rain soaked road.

[devlish]

Being forced to drive through the water blows. If you have an AWD car launching at the strip it is similar to racing on a rain soaked road. i would consider that part of track prep... if they don't have a waterbox you can BACK into, it's no bodies fault but the tracks.

[BadAss88GT]

The tread on street tires holds water. They drag that water up to the line. You can actually see it on the ground. Ever notice drag slicks have no tread?

Hmmm. Interesting. One thing to note though at WIR you CANNOT drive around the water box. In the past the cars with slicks backed into the water box. That seemed to work much better in my opinion.

Being forced to drive through the water blows. If you have an AWD car launching at the strip it is similar to racing on a rain soaked road.

Thats true, and we bitched about that too. For us RWD guys, its not a real big deal, but I can see where it would be for AWD if they can't burn their water off.

[EVILUTION]

Personally I don't think there should be any track prep or water box at all. Furthermore, all participating cars should be registered.

In my mind its retarded to compare RSD to a street drag.

[BadAss88GT]

Why no track prep?

You realize that theyve been prepping roads for years in the cities where street racing is huge? Not talking about stoplight to stoplight shit, but real street racing.

[TomKat]

You can compare RSD to street racing. Some people don't want the risk associated with the street action and I don't blame them at all.

Of course RSD had it's place and so does street action. On the street there are really no rules other than a gentleman's agreement. If someone wants to prep the street they can.

The first time I saw a team prep the street after the Rapids Car Cruise I was like: What the hell. But those guys from Neilsville cleaned house that year.

[BadAss88GT]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1635440898213408471

[BadAss88GT]

I bet they only sprayed their lane, right?

[EVILUTION]

I have no problem with people running slicks and open headers. If you can get away with that on city streets then by all means go for it. But I would never agree to someone spraying glue on the road. If its not part of your car then its not part of the game.

Track action with full prep and a trailered car is a track drag event not a real street drag. I'm not against drag racing at the track but I think its silly to pretend is legal street racing.

[devlish]

I'm not against drag racing at the track but I think its silly to pretend is legal street racing.

i'm guessing most of the cars at RSD have NOT raced on the street. i can understand trailering them there, because some people come from a long distance... but then again, people rarely trailer their cars to a street race... so if this is Real Street Drags... trailer queens are out.

[BadAss88GT]

Well, I can see all the points. I have trailered my car to the track, only after I got stranded last year at WIR when I exploded the rearend and had to go back the next day, but I'm back to just driving it to the track and taking my chances, its too damn expensive to tow it there.

I dont think many will dispute mine being a street car, that's been proven. However, when I come back down to have some fun, I certainly will be spraying the road to help me hook, at least until I figure out how to put AWD on my car.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

at least until I figure out how to put AWD on my car.

I know of a way, sell that v8 junk and buy an EVO!!! :lol:


haha, wait, dont buy an evo, we dont need any more running around town driving by my house at 90 mph late at night.

[devlish]

i caught the one last night... i'm sure i was going to get something... but i stepped out of the garage just intime to see them...

[EVILUTION]

You wouldn't even hear mine right now.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

You wouldn't even hear mine right now.

the latest silver evo has a new exhaust and can be heard from miles away. me and SilverEvo#1 were out fishing on the river and could hear SilverEvo#4 rippin up the streets of stevens point.

[BadAss88GT]

I know of a way, sell that v8 junk and buy an EVO!!! :lol:
.

NEVER!!

I figured it out already. I'll be back down for a rematch soon, and I will be dragging imports without any help! All motor baby!

[TomKat]

As of noon today the titanium pipe is back on. 8) EVO 8.5 #3

[Extremedsm]

at least until I figure out how to put AWD on my car.

I know of a way, sell that v8 junk and buy an EVO!!! :lol:


haha, wait, dont buy an evo, we dont need any more running around town driving by my house at 90 mph late at night.

I think that son of a bitch drove past my house yesterday also. :twisted:

[EVILUTION]

Stock > Titanium

[TomKat]

Stock > Titanium

True. This exhaust rattles. :x But when you floor it - :o

[adamvann3]

True, I like GLD a lot better. They have a lane that goes around the water box. Plus I like the jet car. Its not everyday you get to see a 5.72 quarter.

[devlish]

But when you floor it - :o

... it rattles more?? :wink:

[TomKat]

It goes: PPPHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

That's with the silencer in.

[DontStopMe]

So, back on topic. Its me, badass88GT and possibly seeyaAWD..... no one else?

VPT? Stash? Extreme? TomKat? evil :lol: ? mattsubishi? TC? Devlish? GSXrated/GLHottie? DSM Girl?

I know point and Dizzm are not going..

[devlish]

yeah, i got nothing to drive down the track, except the Lex. GLHottie will be late getting back to StPt that night. evil.... good one!

ps... tell your roomate his stuff is ready

[GLHottie]

I will not be attending. :(

[Stash]

I am not going. There is an autocross at WIR on Sun, I don't want to drive there twice in one weekend. I would much rather carve some cones than go in a straight line. I will probably go to one more RSD, most likely the last one when it is hopefully cooler out.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I am not going. There is an autocross at WIR on Sun, I don't want to drive there twice in one weekend. I would much rather carve some cones than go in a straight line. I will probably go to one more RSD, most likely the last one when it is hopefully cooler out.

somone is falling in love with the tight turns of an auto-x course :o

[EVILUTION]

^ That shit is more addicting than crack! Sometimes more expensive too.

[Stash]

I am interested to see how my JDM torque increaser is going to work on the course. I am now seeing 20psi by 4k, huge improvement since the last autox.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I am interested to see how my JDM torque increaser is going to work on the course. I am now seeing 20psi by 4k, huge improvement since the last autox.

is that starting in 3rd gear at 2k rpms? I'd like to see how your spoolup compares to me.

[Extremedsm]

I am not going. There is an autocross at WIR on Sun, I don't want to drive there twice in one weekend. I would much rather carve some cones than go in a straight line. I will probably go to one more RSD, most likely the last one when it is hopefully cooler out.

Stay the weekend and sleep in your car. :?

[Stash]

Then I would miss the Saturday night action after the car cruise. That will probably be more fun than RSDs anyway.

[Stash]

I am interested to see how my JDM torque increaser is going to work on the course. I am now seeing 20psi by 4k, huge improvement since the last autox.

is that starting in 3rd gear at 2k rpms? I'd like to see how your spoolup compares to me.

Yes, third gear pull starting at 2/2.5k.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

That will probably be more fun than RSDs anyway.

I have been to a few RSD's to watch, seems like a lot of waiting in line. I ran at a few rock falls test and tune day and a fun run day, both had an awesome time, got in as MANY runs as possable without much wait at all. Only thing I did not like is when next to a full out drag car and not being able to hear your engine to know what rpm your at (pre-DSMlink days).

[Stash]

I got in 10 runs at the last RSD I went to, could have done more, I spectated in the stands for a couple hours. Just not something I want to do on the monthly basis.

[DontStopMe]

the key is to go early. If you don't go until like 7 or 8, you will be rushed to get 3 runs in if its busy.

[BadAss88GT]

Not if you have street races lined up, they take priority over T&T.

DontStopMe, what are you gonna race, your Camaro? If you see me, stop by and say Hi, I'll be pitted along the bleachers near the concessions.

[DontStopMe]

nope, shooting for the 12's with the DSM. I like running in the T&T lane so i get a slip.

[TomKat]

That's one thing I don't like about RSD. I have a race lined up with someone, but if you want to "street" race you can't get a time slip. I'm at a track I want a time slip. :?

[Pointdsm]

You can do it, i did it numerous times last summer, just tell the track dude you have a street race lined up, and you want it off the tree. I had a DSM vs DSM race, both of us with about the same mods, only he was automatic(kind of a test).

[BadAss88GT]

Exactly. You can still run off the tree.

[EVILUTION]

Exactly. You can still run off the tree.

Just like "real street action".

RSD is a scam.

[DontStopMe]

You can do it, i did it numerous times last summer, just tell the track dude you have a street race lined up, and you want it off the tree. I had a DSM vs DSM race, both of us with about the same mods, only he was automatic(kind of a test).
i did that once and they did give me a slip, but they told me to go in the other lanes after that if i still wanted a slip.

[Stash]

I didn't realize that there was a T&T lane. :? I think I used all the lanes last time I was there, got a slip every time.

[DontStopMe]

I didn't realize that there was a T&T lane. :? I think I used all the lanes last time I was there, got a slip every time.

lane 5 is the only lane for "RSD" with no slip.

[Pointdsm]

Not true, i was in lane 5 for my street racing, since it is the street racing lane(at least it was when i was there). I got a slip and everything, its your choice to go off the lights or a starter.

[DontStopMe]

i did that (lane5) once and they did give me a slip, but they told me to go in the other lanes after that if i still wanted a slip.
whatever, WIR changes its mind every day.

[TomKat]

i did that once and they did give me a slip, but they told me to go in the other lanes after that if i still wanted a slip.

Yeah same here. Wait an hour in line then hope you get to line up against your opponent.

[BadAss88GT]

If you have a raced lined up with a friend, just go into lane 5, and you tell them you're running the guy behind you, for $50 off the tree. You could also run Pro Tree, either way you'll still get a timeslip. Just tell them you're running for cash.

[DontStopMe]

great :roll:, I hear its T&T, RSD and high school night tomorrow :x

[BadAss88GT]

Not according to their schedule. High School night was last week, I was there for that too.

http://www.wirmotorsports.com/

[EVILUTION]

Sounds like you attend alot of these events. Do you make changes to the car before each one? Don't most people go to get a timeslip then don't go again until they have made a fairly major change in hopes of a better slip?

[BadAss88GT]

I am constantly looking for ET, even if it's just another hundredth.

Last winter I switched to all adjustable suspension, so I've been monkeying with that, and Ive been toying with different carb spacers looking for ET. My goal now is to go get a 10 second slip NA, I'm .17 away right now, so I'm trying all sorts of little tricks and tweaks to get there.

[VPT]

What are your 60' ?

[BadAss88GT]

Low to mid 1.5x's.

Low and behold, it was High School night also, though the schedule didnt say it. It wasnt that bad, I hotlapped most of the night when I wasnt tinkering, got off about 8 runs before I quit, I couldve done probably 2 more if I wanted, but stopped due to issues with the car that made me pull my hair out.


DontStopMe, it was good to meet you!

[DontStopMe]

yea it was fun sitting in line for two hours watching other people run over and over again :roll: fuck RSD

[Stash]

yea it was fun sitting in line for two hours watching other people run over and over again :roll: fuck RSD

Did you get that 12 sec slip?

[devlish]

yea it was fun sitting in line for two hours watching other people run over and over again :roll:
bummer. i hate it when they stop one lane for over an hour but still let the other lanes just flow right though. fuckers.

:roll: fuck RSD he is seeing the light...

[EVILUTION]

I still do not see the hype around RSD. They should have street legal drags. That would be better than "Bring your unsafe junk to the track night" called RSD.

[DontStopMe]

good #1. My stock 4g63 engine turned 8 grand with a 45 shot going through it.(and didn't go boom)

good #2. I trapped at 108 some MPH.

counter the good with fuck rsd for making me sit in line for 2 hours, and fuck FWD and 2.0 60's at best. no i did not hit a 12.

[BadAss88GT]

You were going in the wrong lane. I hotlapped all night, made 7 runs and I quit an hour early.

[DontStopMe]

You were going in the wrong lane. I hotlapped all night, made 7 runs and I quit an hour early.
I had no choice, I was in lane five before 8:30 which is when they still had the high school and beat my meat BS still going on. Also, in your lane, you are not suppose to be getting a slip. but yea, I saw you run 2 or 3 times when I was in line. once i finally got to run after 10pm i was the fuck outta there.

[BadAss88GT]

Who said you dont get a slip? I was in Pro Tree lane, you still get a slip. You can even street race off a tree and get a slip, set something up to give the guy or take the hit after the tree comes down. Let the tree go, and wait till he gets 2 cars out, then go. It wont affect your ET and you still get a slip.

I learned a long time ago to stay out of the time lanes, after spending 2 hours sitting myself watching others go by.

[DontStopMe]

once again. you don't see the bias in that?

[BadAss88GT]

What bias?

All I saw was lanes 3,4 and 5 packed tight all the way to the corner. Lane 2 was empty, and it was for Pro Tree. So run Pro Tree. I dont see what the issue is here?

[DontStopMe]

for one, half the people in lane 3,4,5 were there before lane 2 was open to them. you don't see the bias in letting the same cars race over and over again while other sit in line for over 2 hours, nice. tell me you wouldnt be pissed sitting in line for 2 hours while other cars got to keep hot lapping. but i suppose I'm just to dumb to get in the right lane huh? BS, everyone is there to race, they should let everyone race.

[BadAss88GT]

It's a big pain in the ass, but Ive moved out of packed lanes before, people will move their cars if you ask, but I agree with you. I wasnt understanding what you were saying.

I also agree with you, they are bias against timed run guys, they say it all night over the mic. I got sick of listening to it month after month, so I quit going in those lanes. They dont like the T&T guys. Ever go to RSD at GLD? After 7pm, there are no time runs, they close the lanes for everything except street races.

[DontStopMe]

What bias?


I also agree with you, they are bias against timed run guys

my point exactly. its BS. I also bet half the people in the time run lanes don't know they could go in the pro tree lane/RSD lane.

[BadAss88GT]

I guess my point is, there arent many opportunities for those of us that want to run at the track with awesome track prep and get a time slip, so we had RSD. Ive tried Friday night HS Night, track prep sucks. I havent tried Saturday night brackets yet, but from what I'm told I'll probably only get 3 passes before I'm out. That leaves RSD, but its no good for T&T because they give preferrance to the street race guys, so to take advantage, a guy stays away from the time lanes and either run Pro Tree or street races.

Believe me, I've been as pissed as you, Ive been doing RSD since the beginning. I figured out the way to make passes.

[BadAss88GT]

I also bet half the people in the time run lanes don't know they could go in the pro tree lane/RSD lane.

That part I dont get. The only diference with Pro Tree is the way the lights come down. Why wouldnt anyone be able to go run Pro Tree?

[DontStopMe]

well I think if everyone knew you still got a slip, everyone would go in that lane. but hey, then it would finally be fair. I can just as easily pick out someone and have them race me, but why bother? I'm going to the track mostly just to see what my car does. But shit, if me and everyone else in lane 3,4,and 5 knew that we could just pick a buddy and hop in that lane and still get a slip, don't you think almost EVERYONE would have done that? And trust me, that lane just looks like the VIP lane to everyone else.

[BadAss88GT]

I dont know what else to tell ya.

I'm far from a VIP. If you can find one person at the track that Tuff dislikes more than me, I'd shake his hand.

[DontStopMe]

they were basically advertising you man. "this is badassGT, he can be found on the Wisconsin street dominators site." I heard that over the loud speaker when you raced. I'm not saying this is your fault by any means. I don't blame you for getting in all the runs you can and going pro tree. This is about the track. The track is really unfair and bias, and poorly run on an RSD night to say the least. the only thing i can give them credit for last night is getting done with the high school'ers rather quick. but once again, it wasn't on the schedule that it was going to be RSD and high school all in the same night, poor planning.

[DontStopMe]

I guess i just don't like to be told I'm doing it wrong when its the track thats f|_|<king people over. Would someone please build a good, well run drag strip within an hour of Stevens Point! please.

[BadAss88GT]

You will hear no arguments from me about the track and it's "practices". I bet if we compare, my complaint list is longer than yours, Ive been bitching on WSD and WIR's sites for years already, only for it to fall on deaf ears. Ive finally accepted that this is the best we're gonna get. It sucks, that I know.

I'm not telling you really what you're doing wrong, like I'm critiqueing you, I'm telling you what I figured out to make more runs, and it seems to work. Don't read it like I'm against you or any better than you or anything like that, cuz that is far from the way I am intending it.

[TomKat]

It sounds like a very poorly run event. If they advertised it as a test and tune then they should let those guys run just as often as everyone else.

[BadAss88GT]

Thats the thing, its not advertised as a T&T, never has been. They say over and over again on the PA, RSD is not a T&T. They run time runs because guys come to race and there are hardly no street races, so they just run to fill the time. If i twere like GLD's RSD with a ton of street races, there wouldnt be any time runs after their half-assed ridiculous lunch break they take.

[EVILUTION]

^^^ Or simply avoid RSD.

[BadAss88GT]

Some of us like to make passes on a sticky track and get a slip.