2011 CWSCC (and others) Schedule

[TomKat]

These are tentative dates so far for 2011:

Sunday April 10th - Lapping day USAIR
Sunday April 17th - Auto X - WIR (FVSCC)

Sunday May 1st - USAIR Autocross CWSCC and FVSCC
Sunday May 8th - Golden Sands Autocross
Sunday May 15th - Auto X Columbus 151 (MSCC)
Sunday May 22nd - Auto X School Columbus 151 (MSCC)
Sunday May 22nd - LAX @ Winnona MN
Saturday May 28th - Lapping Day Blackhawk Farms (MSCC)
Monday May 30th - HSAX - (MSCC Council)

Sunday June 5th - Auto X Dells Raceway Auto X (CWSCC + MSCC)
Saturday June 11th - HSAX @ Autobahn
Sunday June 12th - MAC Auto-X
Sunday June 19th - USAIR Autocross CWSCC and FVSCC
Sunday June 19th - Milwaukee SCCA AutoX
Sunday June 19th - Chicago SCCA AutoX
Sunday June 19th - Sugar River Raceway Auto X (MSCC)
Saturday and Sunday June 25th 26th - Brainerd (CWSCC)

Sunday July 2-3rd - National SCCA Tour @ Toledo OH
Sunday July 10th - USAIR Autocross CWSCC and FVSCC
Sunday July 10th - CVSCC in Eau Claire AutoX
Sunday July 17th - CWSCC Marshfield Autocross
Sunday July 17th - Columbus or Jefferson Auto X (MSCC)
Sunday July 24th - LAX SCCA in Winnona AutoX
Saturday July 30th - MAC Auto-X in St Paul

Sunday Aug. 7th - Dells Raceway Auto X (CWSCC + MSCC)
Sunday Aug. 7th - Milwaukee SCCA AutoX
Saturday Aug. 13th - HSAX Blackhawk Farms (Council)
Sunday Aug. 14th - USAIR Autocross CWSCC and FVSCC
Sunday Aug. 21st - CWSCC Marshfield Autocross
Sunday Aug. 21st - Chicago SCCA AutoX
Sunday Aug. 28th - LAX SCCA in Winnona MN

Monday Sept 5th - Milwaukee SCCA AutoX
Sunday Sept. 11th - CWSCC USAIR Lapping Day
Sunday Sept 11th - MSCC Auto-X
Saturday Sept. 17th - HSAX Blackhawk Farms (Council)
Sunday Sept. 18th - CWSCC Golden Sands Autocros
Sunday Sept 18th - Milwaukee SCCA AutoX
Sunday Sept. 25th - Auto X WIR (FVSCC)
Sunday Sept 25th - LAX SCCA AutoX in West Salem
Sunday Sept 25th - Chicago SCCA AutoX

Saturday Oct. 1st - HSAX Autobahn South (Council)
Sunday Oct 2nd - MAC Auto-X in St Paul MN
Sunday Oct. 9th - CWSCC USAIR Lapping Day
Sunday Oct 9th - Milwaukee SCCA AutoX
Saturday Oct. 15th - HSAX Blackhawk Farms (Council)
Sat/Sun Oct 15-16 - Chicago SCCA Twin Solo AutoX
Sunday Oct. 23rd - Miller Park (MSCC + FVSCC)

[supradjza80]

Looks awesome!

[plainrt]

yeah except all usair dates with ????

[TomKat]

yeah except all usair dates with ????

That means it hasn't been determined if it will be a lapping day or autocross.

The dates I have with USAIR are requests. Haven't been confirmed yet and there is always the possibility of getting bumped.

[paulmeisterpk]

Looks awesome. Im going to be mad if I can't get off work for the dells races this year

[Shane]

Looks like an exciting year ahead!!!!! I can't wait!

[northsydryd]

no dates for mss or gss?

[TomKat]

no dates for mss or gss?

Not yet. We'll fit those events around the other stuff.

[sleepersoob02]

Now all we need is some rallyx/rally in there :drool:

[TomKat]

The dates have been firmed up a bit and the autocross/lapping day events have been decided at USAIR.

Note: The June date has been changed from June 12th to June 19th.

[mrslysly]

The dates have been firmed up a bit and the autocross/lapping day events have been decided at USAIR.

Sweet!!

[05Saab]

Passed these dates over to Ryan Gates to see if he has any interest in coming to an event. He sounded really into the idea last year, but was too busy with the new mods to the AMS Evo X.

Not sure which car he'd bring lol
http://image.modified.com/f/34786716+w750+st0/modp_1011_03_o+2011_mitsubishi_lancer_ralliart+gat es_311_evo_x.jpg

[TomKat]

MSCC has some dates changed.

May 1st event was canceled.

May 15th will be an autocross at Columbus 151.

May 22nd will be the autocross school at Columbus 151.

[snoxracer183]

Updated

[TomKat]

What got updated?

[bm87ta]

boo to may 1st

[snoxracer183]

What got updated?

Andy and I added most of the AutoX schedules from Milwaukee, Chicago, LaCrosse, MAC, and Eau Claire.

[Dizmm]

yeah, event for every weekend now!!!

Ordered some new tires yesterday, time to use them up!

[TomKat]

Did you get some Hankooks?

[Dizmm]

no. Starspecs. within 24 hours of ordering from tirerack, they arrived!

[KARKRAFT]

Now I have to wait till next weekend!?

[Dizmm]

^ for what?

[KARKRAFT]

Autox.

[Dizmm]

why not this weekend?

[KARKRAFT]

MSCC has some dates changed.

May 1st event was canceled.

May 15th will be an autocross at Columbus 151.

May 22nd will be the autocross school at Columbus 151.

Did I misread this?

[bm87ta]

Did I misread this?

what he said

[Dizmm]

i think that was for Madison's event this weekend.

There is still a shawano auto-x this sunday.

[KARKRAFT]

Sweet!

[TomKat]

At the top of that post it says -MSCC has some dates changed. -

[KARKRAFT]

At the top of that post it says -MSCC has some dates changed. -

Yeah, the Arizona sun must have gotten to me. I noticed that after posting.

[paulmeisterpk]

Dang! I didn't realize there was an event this sunday. I switched so I didn't have to work next Sunday.

[LS3]

Where do I sign up for the dells auto x next weekend? Or is it just show up and pay? Thank you.

[TomKat]

Just show up and pay.

[ximportxenx]

June 5th ima have to get a room n go down there on Saturday

[ximportxenx]

where is a good place to stay down in the dells with good rates anyone help me cause i dont wanna wake up sunday morning to drive down there from shawano

[devlish]

pink flamingo!!!!

[ximportxenx]

u for real aint that place ghetto and where is the race n time info and stuff

[SgtRauksauff]

Apparently they're listing the directions et cetera on myautoevents.com, from a link on the madisonautocross.com calendar. a little roundabout, but it's there...

clicky linky (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=12402)

Dells Raceway Park
N1070 Smith Road
Wisconsin Dells, WI 53965

Basically, as you're coming in on I39, take Highway 23 West (exit 100), right through the Dells. You go over the bridge, then down the hill, take a right at the Country Kitchen (hwy 12/16). Go north for a few miles, and turn left on Dees Road, then Left again on Smith road, the track is on your left.

******* edit *******
ok, I just edited the Madisonautocross.com page of the event (http://madisonsportscarclub.com/node/158). Dunno why they didn't include directions and stuff, but it's there now.


--sarge

[ximportxenx]

So this even starts at 7:30 instead of normal 9

[TomKat]

You are correct. This is an event with the Madison Sports Car Club so we will be following their schedule:

Registration
7:30 AM to 9:00 AM

Tech inspection
7:30 AM to 9:45 AM

Walk the track
8:30 AM to 10:00 AM

Mandatory Driver's Meeting
10:00 AM

Rookie Practice
10:00 AM to 10:45 AM

Timed Runs
11:00 AM - ???

[SgtRauksauff]

Depending on the number of rookies, sometimes the rookie runs are skipped, and we can get FCO at around 10:15 or so.

--sarge

[LS3]

Are we using the posted time schedule for the auto x this sunday at usair in shawano?

9am - 10am - Registration & Tech Open
10:30am - Drivers Meeting
11:00am - 1st Car out
Event usually ends around 3-5pm

[TomKat]

Yes.

Only thing to add is pre-registration opens at 8:59am.

[Dizmm]

anyone up for an autox at winona on the 24th?

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.023...5&z=18&l=0&m=b (http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.023...5&z=18&l=0&m=b)

[Dizmm]

anyone up for an autox at winona on the 24th?

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.023...5&z=18&l=0&m=b (http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=44.023...5&z=18&l=0&m=b)

no one?

[Pointdsm]

I'll be going through Winona, but need to make it to Rapids City by nightfall...

[mrslysly]

The event on Oct 23rd is an autox?

[TomKat]

Yes an autocross at Miller Park on Sunday Oct. 23rd.

[devlish]

Minnesota Winter Rallye

http://www.facebook.com/#!/events/233419873381380/

[EVILUTION]

How about a 2012 thread?

[kelley]

The writings been on the wall for a while now. The US and all other countries will be competing for oil, gas prices will continue to rise. Plus our job market will further tank.. jobs continuing to Mexico/China ect and the "EPA" "helping" us all out while the smoke stacks in China and Mexico bellow with pollutants. Pleasure boating will returM to the levels it was at in the 1930's. Very wealthly folks will own big boats and I am not knocking them most have earned it., every one else will have a small boat or a sail boat the only classic BW should consider thus wise is... The Classic 17 Montauk, with a 35-50 hp four stroke this boat can run many hours on a 12 gal tank which at a cost of $8 a gallon will cost 48 dollars to fill and be light enought to trailer with the smaller gutless autos/"trucks" we will be soon seeing. Oh well! you asked! Yes a 17 ft classic can run good enought with a 35 hp 4 stroke. 20 mph but ..Oh Well that better then nothing and yes you will be able to get out to fish! Whos going to be able to fill a 27 ft boat with 100 gal at 8 bucks a gal for a day or two's ride??? Get used to this old song.. "Buddy can you spare a dime" or really a ten spot. And the term, "Soup Kitchen"... Wow I am actually glad I'm old haveing lived and throughly enjoyed the hey days of cheap gas.. let her rip!

[kelley]

the 210 Montauk is much more a big Montauk than it is a modern Outrage 22. The lack of under gunwale rod storage in the 210 is significant, as is the lack of provision to lean against the gunwale with room below for your toes. With the gunwale sheer to the deck, you really have to be a few inches away from the gunwale right where you need it for support. The solid gunwales also prevent the use of flush mounted rod holders, a key feature on the classics, along with inboard cleats and hawse pipes.The 210 is shorter by nearly a foot, but also wider by a foot. I think this takes away from the aesthetics of the classic 22, which I've always though had ideal proportions. That wide beam likely causes some additional pounding in a head sea, but does increase interior space. I suspect the beam is necessary in order to shoehorn a porta potty into the console.
As Peter said, the lack of provision for twin engines or even a transom mounted kicker is a major drawback, a flaw that carries through much of the Whaler line these days. I also echo his comments on the lack of canvas options, something that once set Whalers apart from their competition. Sure, you can custom order something, and perhaps Mills will get around to designing a canvas set for this model, but with the classics, you could order it and pick up your new boat with correct canvas systems installed!
The 210 seems to perform well with the new 150 Four Stroke, outperforming the 150 Verado (weight penalty?) and doing as well as the 200 Verado save for 2 or 3 mph on the top end. Comparing these numbers to the performance of my Outrage 22 Cuddy with a 200 E-TEC, I suspect the 210 has significantly less hull deadrise, and is therefore more easily driven. The drawback of this is of course offshore performance, and I think the 210 is really envisioned by Whaler as a a big inshore/bay boat. Nothing wrong with that, but it's apples and oranges in my book.
The 210 console, while nicely configured for electronics, is poorly configured for access to the sort of things you keep in the console. The lack of an aft facing door in the console is problematic, requiring the pilot to leave the helm to retrieve pliers, binoculars, a jacket, whatever. Further, he has to step down and fetch it from inside the mini outhouse. While I understand the consumer demand for the tiny restroom, it more or less kills that space for functional storage, despite there being more space inside the console than on the classics.
Closing thoughts on this comparison: The classic 22 hull was available in a variety of configurations (3 different cuddy cabin models, notched and full transom models, outboard and sterndrive power, etc.) Whaler was able to offer a broad spectrum of boats appealing to a wide range of uses and price points using this strategy, something not seen in the current line.

[Dizmm]

Hey, this should be posted in our fishing section.

[Mr. Fuji]

the 210 Montauk is much more a big Montauk than it is a modern Outrage 22. The lack of under gunwale rod storage in the 210 is significant, as is the lack of provision to lean against the gunwale with room below for your toes. With the gunwale sheer to the deck, you really have to be a few inches away from the gunwale right where you need it for support. The solid gunwales also prevent the use of flush mounted rod holders, a key feature on the classics, along with inboard cleats and hawse pipes.The 210 is shorter by nearly a foot, but also wider by a foot. I think this takes away from the aesthetics of the classic 22, which I've always though had ideal proportions. That wide beam likely causes some additional pounding in a head sea, but does increase interior space. I suspect the beam is necessary in order to shoehorn a porta potty into the console.
As Peter said, the lack of provision for twin engines or even a transom mounted kicker is a major drawback, a flaw that carries through much of the Whaler line these days. I also echo his comments on the lack of canvas options, something that once set Whalers apart from their competition. Sure, you can custom order something, and perhaps Mills will get around to designing a canvas set for this model, but with the classics, you could order it and pick up your new boat with correct canvas systems installed!
The 210 seems to perform well with the new 150 Four Stroke, outperforming the 150 Verado (weight penalty?) and doing as well as the 200 Verado save for 2 or 3 mph on the top end. Comparing these numbers to the performance of my Outrage 22 Cuddy with a 200 E-TEC, I suspect the 210 has significantly less hull deadrise, and is therefore more easily driven. The drawback of this is of course offshore performance, and I think the 210 is really envisioned by Whaler as a a big inshore/bay boat. Nothing wrong with that, but it's apples and oranges in my book.
The 210 console, while nicely configured for electronics, is poorly configured for access to the sort of things you keep in the console. The lack of an aft facing door in the console is problematic, requiring the pilot to leave the helm to retrieve pliers, binoculars, a jacket, whatever. Further, he has to step down and fetch it from inside the mini outhouse. While I understand the consumer demand for the tiny restroom, it more or less kills that space for functional storage, despite there being more space inside the console than on the classics.
Closing thoughts on this comparison: The classic 22 hull was available in a variety of configurations (3 different cuddy cabin models, notched and full transom models, outboard and sterndrive power, etc.) Whaler was able to offer a broad spectrum of boats appealing to a wide range of uses and price points using this strategy, something not seen in the current line.

???? What is this??? I feel like Im at work.