new high-performance brake fluid

[SgtRauksauff]

Ran across a link to this on Pegasus' site..

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=1036

I just wonder how much of it is just marketing, lol! You'd think we'd've heard more about it otherwise...

--sarge

[devlish]

first thing everyone will complain about (after the price) is the fact that it's in a plastic bottle!!!

[EVILUTION]

There's nothing wrong with plastic bottles. The ones complaining about that are the dummies and they don't need good brake fluid.

[devlish]

agreed. but you know it will happen! it will turn into a huge arguement over why metal cans are better! just like the last thread.

[Dizmm]

I only use brake fluid that comes from a metal can.

[mrslysly]

The plastic bottle would be a problem if the fluid sat a long time. Plastic is NOT a 100% waterproof barrier. So if it comes in plastic, make sure the shit hasn't been sitting on the shelf for a long time.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Super blue has a plastic cap?

[northsydryd]

agreed. but you know it will happen! it will turn into a huge arguement over why metal cans are better! just like the last thread.

this same argument is made all the time about nitro rc engines

[mrslysly]

Super blue has a plastic cap?

Last can of super blue I opened had a metal foil seal on top underneath the plastic cap.

[EVILUTION]

I really hope we aren't discussing whether or not plastic is better or worse than metal.

It would take over 100 years for any form of moisture to traverse through a plastic bottle.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Last can of super blue I opened had a metal foil seal on top underneath the plastic cap.

LOL not that it matters but go look again, I'm pretty sure it's a plastic spout kinda like you find on those cardboard juice cartons with the screw on cap. I'm almost certain of it.

http://www.namotorsports.net/images/AT706202.jpg

[VPT]

I find this stuff hilarious!

Ask yourself if plastic is bad when you are pouring your nice new brake fluid out of the metal can into the PLASTIC brake reservoir in your car.

[Dizmm]

I replaced my reservoir with an all aluminum one.

[devlish]

i find this stuff hilarious!

Ask yourself if plastic is bad when you are pouring your nice new brake fluid out of the metal can into the plastic brake reservoir in your car.

amen to that!!!!

[Posihead]

I only use brake fluid that comes from a metal can.

The plastic bottle would be a problem if the fluid sat a long time. Plastic is NOT a 100% waterproof barrier. So if it comes in plastic, make sure the shit hasn't been sitting on the shelf for a long time.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/face_palm.jpg

And...

http://www.lostrepublic.us/Graphics/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

I only use brake fluid that comes from a plastic container, because it makes me giggle!

[Dizmm]

I only use brake fluid that comes from a plastic container, because it makes me giggle!

ha, your car is broke, why would you need brake fluid?

[Posihead]

ha, your car is broke, why would you need brake fluid?

It is? News to me... Ha

[mrslysly]

How long does the higher temp brake fluid sit in the storage container vs how long it sits in your car?? If it sat in your car for 2 years then it wouldn't matter what container it it was sold in.

Posi, you're so smart taking some short tid bit of a larger concept out of the whole context and trying to make that person look dumb and then be funny about it. Just hilarious.

[Posihead]

How long does the higher temp brake fluid sit in the storage container vs how long it sits in your car?? If it sat in your car for 2 years then it wouldn't matter what container it it was sold in.

Posi, you're so smart taking some short tid bit of a larger concept out of the whole context and trying to make that person look dumb and then be funny about it. Just hilarious.

There IS no larger concept, it doesn't matter! If you think it does matter, then you are dumb. Lets say it did matter, do you buy you brake fluid to look at it on the shelf, or do you buy it to use it?

Now read this................

Brake fluid should be changed regularly to keep moisture and corrosion out of your system. But before you run out and use a racing brake fluid, you should consider how you will use it. A racing brake fluid is designed to be changed frequently, usually before every race. Typical racing fluid absorbs moisture very quickly, so within a few months you will be running with a much lower boiling point and encouraging corrosion in your braking system.

The statement by Performance Friction that "ABS function is enhanced due to the high boiling point and non-compressibility" is pure marketing hype. ALL brake fluid (except DOT 5 silicone) is non-compressible and, hopefully, not boiling while you are driving! The fact that they don't list a wet boiling point makes me a bit suspicious.

If it was really good, they would be a DOT 4 fluid and not a DOT 3 fluid. And there is no such thing as a "Z-rated" brake fluid. That is also a marketing creation that PF has come up with.

Lets look at what the DOT ratings mean. The table below shows the MINIMUM wet and dry boiling points for DOT 2, 3, 4, and 5 brake fluid in degrees Fahrenheit.

DOT 2 DOT 3 DOT 4 DOT 5
Dry Boiling point 374 401 446 500
Wet boiling point 284 311 356

The DOT 2 spec is for drum brakes and is obsolete. If you have any DOT 2 in your garage, throw it away! DOT 5 is for silicone brake fluid. Silicone brake fluid (DOT 5) should be avoided because it is not compatible with regular brake fluid, it is hard to pour without introducing bubbles and thus results in soft pedal feel, and moisture still gets into your system and will pool in low areas like your calipers and encourage rapid corrosion. STAY AWAY!

That leaves DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids. These fluids are compatible with each other and may be interchanged or mixed with no ill effects. Let's look at some popular brake fluids and their boiling points:

DRY WET
Castrol LMA DOT 3/4 446 311
Ford Heavy Duty DOT 3 550 290
ATE Super Blue Racing 536 392
ATE TYP 200 536 392
Motul Racing 600 585 421
Castrol SRF 590 518
Performance Friction 550 284

Castrol LMA is very good at rejecting moisture and may be kept in your brake system for a couple years. The LMA stands for "Low Moisture Absorption". Comes in plastic bottles.

Ford Heavy Duty DOT 3 is VERY inexpensive and is popular among racers because of its excellent dry boiling point. It absorbs moisture quickly, but the racers don't care since they change their fluid frequently. Comes in metal cans.

ATE Super Blue Racing and ATE TYP 200 are the same brake fluid in two different colors (blue and amber, respectively). BMW recommends this brake fluid for their street cars because it, like Castrol LMA, absorbs moisture very slowly. The advantage over LMA is that ATE has a much better wet boiling point. You can put this stuff in your car and forget about it for a long time. An excellent choice for a weekend track car which also sees regular street duty. Comes in metal cans.

Motul Racing 600 is a very exotic and expensive synthetic fluid with high wet and dry boiling points. I use this exclusively in my race cars. Too expensive for the street and requires frequent changing due to its hydroscopic nature. Sold in plastic bottles.

Castrol SRF is a hyper-exotic and hyper-expensive brake fluid that is generally used by wealthy Porsche owners at track events. I've seen prices of $78 per liter for this stuff. It is not suitable for the street because it absorbs moisture quickly. Sold in metal cans.

Performance Friction High Performance DOT 3 has a good dry boiling point but a crummy wet boiling point. It comes in metal cans and sells for $7.87 per 16 ounce container. If you are even considering this fluid, I would go with the cheaper Ford Heavy Duty DOT 3. In either case, change this fluid frequently due to the poor wet boiling point.

[Dizmm]

^ your about 4 months behind on this discussion. why would you care anyways, you could probably run water and never have to worry about boiling.

[plainrt]

^ your about 4 months behind on this discussion. why would you care anyways, you could probably run water and never have to worry about boiling.


Lol so true..............

[Posihead]

^ your about 4 months behind on this discussion. why would you care anyways, you could probably run water and never have to worry about boiling.

You obviously haven't learned anything yet though, keep being a moron, it's entertaining at least!

[plainrt]

You obviously haven't learned anything yet though, keep being a moron, it's entertaining at least!



I just tose the 99 cent smit in and its good to go....................

[Posihead]

I just tose the 99 cent smit in and its good to go....................

Where is your contribution trollio? All I've seen from you so far is drr drr I'm new to this but my neon will destroy all drrr. You must be a cool guy!

[Dizmm]

You obviously haven't learned anything yet though, keep being a moron, it's entertaining at least!

if you came to events, you'd know i'm being sarcastic. I've used motul and superblue, one comes in a can, one comes in a plastic bottle.

but who cares about me, lets talk more about how posihead will never come to an event because its family night or his motor is too new.

[plainrt]

Where is your contribution trollio? All I've seen from you so far is drr drr I'm new to this but my neon will destroy all drrr. You must be a cool guy!



Drrrrrr......stfu sheep focker.


There you go i added as much as you do.



P.S HOW ABOUT THE 15TH??????????????

[Posihead]

if you came to events, you'd know i'm being sarcastic. I've used motul and superblue, one comes in a can, one comes in a plastic bottle.

but who cares about me, lets talk more about how posihead will never come to an event because its family night or his motor is too new.

Wasn't family night, I was standing up in a family wedding, next time that happens, I'll make sure to go racing instead.

[plainrt]

Wasn't family night, I was standing up in a family wedding, next time that happens, I'll make sure to go racing instead.


whats you doint the 15th?

[Posihead]

whats you doint the 15th?

No plans as of yet, been working on the car trying to get the interior done, removed it all, shampooed the seats and replaced the sagging headliner and worn out sun visors. Steam cleaning the carpet tomorrow and replacing the carpet pad too I think. Interior should look REALLY nice and smell good again!

No, that's not rust of the floor, just dirty and stained.
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/SCD88GA/P7260001.jpg
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/SCD88GA/P7260003.jpg

I have about 60 miles on the car right now and have the mechanical/electrical bugs worked out now. TPS was bad, and the turn signal switch was shot causing a handful of issues. So, as of now, I'm going to concentrate on putting it all back together and getting a little more driving time in it.

[Shane]

Hell id say that looks like fun as it is!! Throw the seats in it and come out on the 15th!!