USAIR Track times. Full flying lap records

[Dizmm]

These lap times are done at our USAIR Lapping Days located in Shawano WI.

For upcoming USAIR Lapping days, check our website at www.cwscc.com (http://www.cwscc.com)

Lap Records:
Best Lap: 1:09.83 by Andy Smedegard, 06 Evolution IX on NT01's
Street Tire lap: 1:12.52 by Andy Smedegard, 03 Evo VIII on Bridgeston RE070's
RWD Car: 1:13.91 by Noah K, 99 C5 Corvette on Nitto 555 R-comps
FWD Car: 1:13.38 by Frank K, Honda Civic on Race Slicks
RWD Street Tire: 1:14.7 by Alex Moss, Honda S2000 on Kumho XS's
FWD Street Tire: 1:16.81 by Jason Cote, Neon on Startspecs
Best Female Lap: 1:15.42 by Megan Solinsky, Evo VIII on kumho v710's

Andy Smedegard.......06 Evo IX on NT01's............1:09.83 - 10-09-2011
Micaiah …………….........06 Evo IX(Race Slicks)..............1:11.46
Tom H.. (CWSCC)..........EVO 8.5 (v710’s).....................1:12.04
Andy Smedegard……….Evo VIII (RE07 Street)……………1:12.52
Frank K……………......... 06 Evo IX (NT01’s)....................1:12.53
Mike Vida................06 STi (StartSpcs)........................1:12.64 - 10-09-2011
Frank K …………….......Bluepy (Race Slicks)............... ...1:13.38
Tom Schulze(EVOM)......EVO X (StarSpecs)................1:13.42
Andy/Micaiah……………Banana (slicks)…………………….1:13.45
Tom Hille...................Rally STi on AO32's..................1:13.53 - 10-09-2011
Noah (CWSCC).............Vette (R comps).....................1:13.91
Rich H.........................Race Ramps STi (RE01’s).........1:14.09
Ryan (evoM)................e85 Evo X (street tires)...........1:14.13
Jeff A…………………………..CRX (R-Comps)..………….………1:14.18
Nick Hoffman…………...06 Evo IX (R-Comps).............. 1:14.041
Chris Hayward……………Evo………………………………………1:14.28
MadCitySTi (MSC)....... 07 STi (Street Tires).............. 1:14.56
Moss...........................S2000 CR (street tires)............1:14.7
Clay............................. Mustang cobra..................... 1:14.7
Sir Ringo (MSC)........... 06 Evo IX ................................1:14.9
Mike Vida (CWSCC).........STI (Street Tires).................1:15.22
Gary Zimmerman..........240sx on RA1's......................1:15.313 - 10-09-2011
Dave Bruenta……………….STi (Street Tires)………………..1:15.39
Megan Solinsky (CWSCC)..EVO 8.5 (R-Comps)...........1:15.42
Paukner (WAG)..............Scirocco (Slicks)....................1:15.49
Kirsten Smedegard (CWSCC)..EVO 8 (R-Comps).........1:15.54
Ryan H………………………Drifting 240sx……………………….1:15.65
TurboChick (CWSCC)...03 Evo VIII...............................1:15.67
Rich Heinz....................STi...................... ....................1:15.67 - 10-09-2011
Kyle Kiesgen.................WRX on RS3's.........................1:15.96 - 10-09-2011
Eric K…………………………Full Race VW………………………..1:16.14
Dewey Dewitt...............STi.......................... ................1:16.39 - 10-09-2011
TomKat (CWSCC).........Type R....................................1:16.70
Jason Cote....................Neon.............. .......................1:16.81
Ian Riggle…………………..240sx (XS’s)………………………….1:16.98
Nick (evoM).................red Evo VIII (Street Tires).......1:17.21
Kronztek (CWSCC)...... Civic Hatch............................ 1:17.4
Abbott (CWSCC)..........Camaro 1LE (Street Tires).......1:17.43
Travis W…………………….Focus……………………………………..1:17.67
Megan S……………………..Evo VIII (Hoosiers)……………….1:17.86
Erik Hutch (MSCC).........Miata turbo (Street Tires)......1:17.90
Sarge(CWSCC).............AE86 (Slicks)...........................1:17.96
Adam (Nasioc)............ 02 WRX................................. 1:18.0
Franz........................... Subie Legacy GT................... 1:18.1
Ian R…………………………240sx (Street Tires)...……………1:18.11
SnowXRacer (CWSCC)......Mazda 3 Speed.................1:18.14
Justin L.........................Silvia (Street Tires)................1:18.20
Ashley Stockhausen.........Civic Supercharged............1:18.29
Ken R………………………….Evo IX………………………………..1:18.41
Chris B………………………..Acura TL……………………………1:18.46
Gary Z………………………….240 no exhaust…………………1:18.46
Robert Shampeau (CWSCC)...DSM...........................1:18.57
Tomkat (CWSCC)........... Subaru 2.5rs....................... 1:18.65
Shane Patza...................'80 RX-7...............................1:18.82
Dan C……………………………..Miata……………………………..1:18.92
Nathan Z………………………Focus…………………………………1:18.99
Jeremy B……………………93 Mustang…………………………1:19.10
Matt W………………………..Legacy GT…………………………..1:19.15
James H………………………….Cobra……………………………..1:19.22
Andy Pfaff (MSC)............Civic 2.2..............................1:19.28
GetSideWays (CWSCC)..Civic Hatch..........................1:19.35
Thuman……………………….BMW M3……………………..…..1:19.38
Brad Zarder....................350z.................... ................1:19.54 - 10-09-2011
Matt Higgens……………….Legacy GT………………………..1:19.69
Jason B………………………..GTi…………………………….……..1:19.72
Noah (CWSCC)..............Vette (Street Tires)..............1:19.75
Scott Patza…………………….RX-7………………………………..1:19.76
Jason H………………………..Civic………………………………….1:19.77
Abbott.......................... Camaro................................ 1:20.1
Marvin Sanchez..............STi.......................... .............1:20.28 - 10-09-2011
Jake Kuchta....................Integra................. .............1:20.29
Mark Polzin...................Audi S-5................................1:21.06
Shane P………………………..240sx………………………………..1:21.32
Slawek Kreller..................Subaru................... ............1:21.50 - 10-09-2011
David Boodl....................RX-7 V-8.............................1:21.75
TomKat (CWSCC)..........Integra GS........................ .. 1:21.8
Kevin R………………………….BMW 325………………………1:22.23
John G…………………………..Musical R32……………………1:22.29
Rob P............................. Prelude 4ws Si....................1:22.39
Brandon G…………………….Cobra……………………………..1:23.11
Wilson………………………….Corolla……………………………1:23.56
Eric K…………………………….Subaru 2.5i……………………..1:23.61
Tom King……………………….Jetta……………………………….1:24.15
BJ Mentink……………………..MR2………………………………1:24.77
Hoot………………………………Lexus………………………….......1:24.78
RapidsChic (CWSCC)..... Civic on Hay-bails............ 1:25.44
TurboChick (CWSCC)..... Subaru 2.5rs ......................1:26.66
Joseph V...........................Subaru................ ...............1:29.64 - 10-09-2011

[Ten2doyle102]

Next time I'd like to take part in that. :D Always nice to see how you did against the others!

[Kiesgen117]

Do we know what the all time track record is in a car?

[devlish]

i want a lap time too!

[Deadly_Evolution]

Getsideways ran a 1:19.35 and 1:19.64 or something (it's on the paper off to the left side) In the Kronz-tech-dirty-honda.

[TomKat]

The two EVO X's on Sunday were driven by Ryan and Tom. Pete had to work at his restaurant.

[Dizmm]

Do we know what the all time track record is in a car?

we never had any full flying timed laps before. This is the start of our recorded times.

[EVILUTION]

Looks like that Megan Street suspension on Frank's car performed quite well.

That's what I've been saying for years.

[fear_no_evo]

Adam (Nasioc)............ 02 WRX............................ 1:18.0

I didn't know you guys timed me. lol

That's kind of cool because Pete (former owner) used to record his lap times. Now I can see how I did with the car vs him.

[Dizmm]

Looks like that Megan Street suspension on Frank's car performed quite well.

That's what I've been saying for years.

i beg to differ.

His car being better in other areas made up for his suspension. shawano is a tire track, not a suspenion track.

[Kiesgen117]

i beg to differ.

His car being better in other areas made up for his suspension. shawano is a tire track, not a suspenion track.

Thats true, i noticed that on Sunday. My suspension actually felt to stiff for that track.

My dad(Ken) and Dale Used to always run Dales lap timer so those times is what i was using as a baseline.

[Dizmm]

Thats true, i noticed that on Sunday. My suspension actually felt to stiff for that track.

My dad(Ken) and Dale Used to always run Dales lap timer so those times is what i was using as a baseline.

what times were they getting?

[fear_no_evo]

I just found out with r comps the previous owner used to pull 1:14's in the car. Looks like I have some work to do on my driving.

[Dizmm]

I just found out with r comps the previous owner used to pull 1:14's in the car. Looks like I have some work to do on my driving.

I take it you werent running race tires?

I'm willing to bet its a 2-3 second difference from a good race tire to a good street tire. Also keep in mind you may have hit traffic. As i was timing i tried to watch and if you were held up i'd throw out the time, but i cant see the entire track from the start.

[WhiteEightBall]

I should give this a try at the next one. maybe..... I'm actually pretty sure the Invo's wont be able to handle it..... Maybe the celica will be done? Who knows. 2 days and I find out if I get payed by the state VA. Should be around $820. I have about $870 saved right now for the motor, so the extra $820 will put me over the top.

[fear_no_evo]

I take it you werent running race tires?

I'm willing to bet its a 2-3 second difference from a good race tire to a good street tire. Also keep in mind you may have hit traffic. As i was timing i tried to watch and if you were held up i'd throw out the time, but i cant see the entire track from the start.

Nope I had the star specs and they did get greasy towards the end of my sessions. He said he ran Shawno with star specs and only lost a second from r comps. I'll have a set of r comps by the next lapping day so I will see how much that makes a difference.

[Kiesgen117]

what times were they getting?

consistently 1:11.xx in Dales s2000 on slicks for both of them, don't really remember a specific fastest time though, I'd have to ask Dale to check his timer.

[Sir Ringo]

Thanks for posting up the times Andy! No surprise that you're at the top of the charts ;) Shame that Mike got me by a few tenths, but as I remember that was the session when he started out in front...it'll be interesting to see the times if / when we do a time attack-style event again.

[Dizmm]

Thanks for posting up the times Andy! No surprise that you're at the top of the charts ;) Shame that Mike got me by a few tenths, but as I remember that was the session when he started out in front...it'll be interesting to see the times if / when we do a time attack-style event again.

yes, dont take those times too sersiouly. most didnt know i was timing them.

Ken/Dale were getting 1:11's? damm, better verify, thats a track record!

Next event we'll get some more times.

[Draven8795]

I guess I'm slightly disappointed in a 1:19 as I thought last year I might have been clocked at a 1:18. Oh well something to shoot for I guess.

On a side note I got way less tire wear at the track this time. Not sure if its the coilovers helping with the understeer or if the tires are just at the point where the rubber isn't coming off? Who knows but now i can run these tires longer as I thought they would be dead after this event.

[Dizmm]

I guess I'm slightly disappointed in a 1:19 as I thought last year I might have been clocked at a 1:18. Oh well something to shoot for I guess.

On a side note I got way less tire wear at the track this time. Not sure if its the coilovers helping with the understeer or if the tires are just at the point where the rubber isn't coming off? Who knows but now i can run these tires longer as I thought they would be dead after this event.

you were probably held up. We'll get you a new time, i'm sure your faster.

the coilovers will help wear. it will even out the wear which will prolong the life of the tire. even wear across the tire means your alignment settings are bang on.

[Deadly_Evolution]

^Also are you full it was a full track that you were being timing on? Just based on what I noticed you are driving the car a lot harder this year compared to last year. I'm willing to bet you're faster now compared to last year.

[EVILUTION]

i beg to differ.

His car being better in other areas made up for his suspension. shawano is a tire track, not a suspenion track.

Every track is a tire track.... and Shawano works the suspension plenty.

Think what you want but Frank was running 3 year old NT01's that used to be on my car.

[Dizmm]

Every track is a tire track.... and Shawano works the suspension plenty.

Think what you want but Frank was running 3 year old NT01's that used to be on my car.

i think his car had the stickiest out of all the stickies. I had a chance to drive his evo with the megans, and I could tell the difference in suspension.

There is no way you are telling me some $500 megans are equivalent to some $3000 ohlins. The only way this is true is if you dont track your car, so i guess in your case....your right evil.

[Extremedsm]

Two of the nittos that were on my car are the ones that came with it and two are Evils old ones.

The two wheel corner damaged one of my SSR's on the inside. Not too bad but it is there.

Anywhich way, I am still suprised at how close I came to Smeds time. Crap suspension and no camber at all. And I drive like ass!!!

[Draven8795]

I definetly felt a lot smoother running this time. I'm still learning how hard to brake and then turn i'm pretty figidity when it comes to that. I also think I'm a bit apprehensive in diving the car into a turn because I don't want to go off and wreck something. I drive within my boundaries pretty well. I need to learn how to go outside of them.

[EVILUTION]

There is no way you are telling me some $500 megans are equivalent to some $3000 ohlins.

Don't get all flustered. All I'm saying is those megan coilovers perform well.

[Dizmm]

not flustered one bit.

Extreme, your "I drive like ass" excuse cant be used anymore. you've been around shawano enough times, i think you have that track nailed.

[Deadly_Evolution]

I definetly felt a lot smoother running this time. I'm still learning how hard to brake and then turn i'm pretty figidity when it comes to that. I also think I'm a bit apprehensive in diving the car into a turn because I don't want to go off and wreck something. I drive within my boundaries pretty well. I need to learn how to go outside of them.

Driving outside of your boundaries is going to lead up to a crash. Learing how to drive better with more seat time and raising your boundaries will produce faster and safer laps.

[Draven8795]

Driving outside of your boundaries is going to lead up to a crash. Learing how to drive better with more seat time and raising your boundaries will produce faster and safer laps.

Yea, thats why I usually stay within them. I typically wind up in the grass at shawano when I try to do something different.

[EVILUTION]

To me shawano is more about holding back. Seldom am I nervous about losing control or brakes. Normally I'm aggitated that I can't open it up as much as I would like to.

[Dizmm]

^ you should try drag racing!

[Draven8795]

To me shawano is more about holding back. Seldom am I nervous about losing control or brakes. Normally I'm aggitated that I can't open it up as much as I would like to.


I haven't hit that point in my driving skill yet. I feel very comfortable on the track currently but when I try to do something outside of my bounds thats when trouble happens. THus far I've been able to keep it under control when i do get out of control but I'd rather not find out what will happen if I don't.

[Dizmm]

I haven't hit that point in my driving skill yet. I feel very comfortable on the track currently but when I try to do something outside of my bounds thats when trouble happens. THus far I've been able to keep it under control when i do get out of control but I'd rather not find out what will happen if I don't.

Other things you can improve on that wont sacrifice safty is your line. One spot specifically i saw was the track exit/entry part. i see lots of people taking the wrong line through there which not only hurts your time, but upsets the balance of the car (cough lotus, cough subaru sti, cough megan in TK's CRX).

[Draven8795]

haha is that subaru sti meaning mine? Anyways next time ill have you or Tom ride with me now that I have a better idea of how to handle the car. Then I can improve the line.

[fear_no_evo]

haha is that subaru sti meaning mine? Anyways next time ill have you or Tom ride with me now that I have a better idea of how to handle the car. Then I can improve the line.


You know what helped me a lot was watching some in car video's that people have taken. My lines still aren't perfect but I improved a lot from watching others.

[Dizmm]

haha is that subaru sti meaning mine? Anyways next time ill have you or Tom ride with me now that I have a better idea of how to handle the car. Then I can improve the line.

not yours, 3 years ago an sti rolled over.

[Draven8795]

Nice shouldn't have said that haha.

Hmm. thats a good idea on the video.

[SgtRauksauff]

I've gotta sit down and have a serious talk with my back to make it heal faster. I can't wait till the next lapping day, and I think getting some times for the AE86 will be a treat!!

--sarge

[EVILUTION]

^ you should try drag racing!

I love drag racing. My daily driver is an 11 second car! I'd rather go to GLD then USAIR.

[TomKat]

GLD=Deliverance Raceway II.

[devlish]

deliverance. intersting movie right there!

[EVILUTION]

From what I hear..... Shawano isn't too far from real life deliverance.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Sounds of a banjo playing in the background.

[Scrad]

Shawano is more like the HBO series Big Love.

[devlish]

"squeel like a pig!!!"

[DirtyBird]

Driving outside of your boundaries is going to lead up to a crash. Learing how to drive better with more seat time and raising your boundaries will produce faster and safer laps.

LoL, ok.....if your not pushing that boundary then you'll never get any faster. Hell take any rally for example. If your not out of control, then your nnot going fast enough. I wanna go fast mama!

[Dizmm]

there are two types of limits (boundaries). Your limits and then the limits of traction itself.

[DirtyBird]

there are two types of limits (boundaries). Your limits and then the limits of traction itself.

yeah, i need to start to save for some good tires.

[the-moss]

I have a video timed 1:15.50, will be running my GPS lap timer (supposedly accurate to .01s when compared to a transponder) this weekend. Hopefully will be able to get a good measure of this track then.

[TomKat]

It will interesting to see what speeds you hit at each section.

[Dizmm]

Updated! Most of these runs are now clean runs as well.


Shawano USAIR track times
Bold = new time

Dizmm (CWSCC)......... 03 Evo VIII........................1:10.63
GetSideWays (CWSCC)..06 Evo IX........................1:12.08
Extreme (CWSCC)....... 06 Evo IX .........................1:12.53
Dizmm (CWSCC)......... 06 Evo IX (Frank’s Evo).... 1:12.9
Extreme (CWSCC).......Bluepy.............................. .1:13.38
Ryan (evoM)................e85 Evo X (street tires)......1:14.48
MadCitySTi (MSC)....... 07 STi (Street Tires)........ 1:14.56
Moss...........................S2000 CR (street tires)......1:14.7
Clay............................. Mustang cobra................ 1:14.7
Tom S (evoM)..............Evo X (Street Tires)...........1:14.81
Sir Ringo (MSC)........... 06 Evo IX ..........................1:14.9
TurboChick (CWSCC)...03 Evo VIII........................1:15.67
Deadly Evo (CWSCC)...06 Evo IX.......................... 1:16.03
TomKat (CWSCC).........Type R..............................1:16.70
Nick (evoM).................red Evo VIII (Street Tires)..1:17.21
Kronztek (CWSCC)...... Civic Hatch....................... 1:17.4
Adam (Nasioc)............ 02 WRX............................ 1:18.0
Franz........................... Subie Legacy GT............. 1:18.1
Draven8795 (CWSCC).. 06 STi (Street Tires)...... 1:19.34
GetSideWays (CWSCC)..Civic Hatch....................1:19.35
Jeff A............................ Civic CRX .......................1:19.63
Noah (CWSCC)..............Vette (Street Tires).........1:19.75
Abbott.......................... Camaro.......................... 1:20.1
TomKat (CWSCC)..........Integra.......................... .. 1:21.8
Tomkat (CWSCC)........... Subaru 2.5rs................. 1:22.84
SnoxRacer183 (CWSCC).. Mazda Speed3 ............1:23.72
RapidsChic (CWSCC)..... Civic on Hay-bails......... 1:25.44
TurboChick (CWSCC)..... Subaru 2.5rs ..................1:26.66

[plainrt]

i thought i had some 1.18s on paper when i looked but could be wrong.

[the-moss]

My best was a 1:14.740 according to my lap timer (timed using the startline on the track)

Unfortunately my video recorder ran out of memory so didn't get my fastest lap. But here's a video of my second fastest lap with a big cone hit at the end. Check out the g-meter as I go by the pits, peak at 2.37g's yo!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO0iCbeBh_8

A screen cap proving I did run my 1:14.740

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/the-moss/Laps.png

[TomKat]

That's awesome Moss.

[mrslysly]

Whoohoo! I had a faster lap time than someone else :D

[Tractionlimit]

Thanks Andy, I had a blast! To be fair, I was not the fastest car on street tires. You were a second or more quicker even before switching rubber :)

[Dizmm]

Thanks Andy, I had a blast! To be fair, I was not the fastest car on street tires. You were a second or more quicker even before switching rubber :)

you improved a lot Ryan. your time from last shawano lapping day was a 1:18.

[Dizmm]

i thought i had some 1.18s on paper when i looked but could be wrong.

you have the SRT? hard to read some of our scribbled notes. if you had the SRT, ten yes you ran a 1:18.8

[TomKat]

PlainFT had the lowered black Neon. I saw some 1:18 times on the sheet also for him.

[plainrt]

PlainFT had the lowered black Neon. I saw some 1:18 times on the sheet also for him.



yep the black first gen.The 1.18s sure didnt happen when i was out there with you tom.....That was slop lol.:yikes:

[Dizmm]

oh ha, ok its on the sheet at "B Neon"

you ran a 1:18.28

[JamesHell]

Hey the-moss (http://www.cwscc.com/vb_forum/member.php?u=90) what are you using to get video and datalogs like that. And is it stupid expensive, just expensive or obtainable for us average Joes?

[TomKat]

Moss is no average Joe. If you have to ask how much it costs forget about it.

[the-moss]

It's pretty pricey. It's a "traqcam complete" system from traqmate.

[ragdoll]

It's pretty pricey. It's a "traqcam complete" system from traqmate.

That was a cool video. With all the stupid money these jackasses blow on their cars to say they "race" them I think everyone here should have that setup.

Thanks for sharing dude. I liked that.

[Dizmm]

so aug 15th, another shawano lapping day. will have the timing equipment there taking records.

[Extremedsm]

Look out. Maybe.

[SgtRauksauff]

I sure hope those Goodyear Eagle slicks grip like the Hankooks do. I'm only bringing the one set of tires. Might even drive up on'em, i dunno. Maybe even trailer, if I get the van's radiator by then. in which case, I'll have all of my tires.

[the-moss]

1:14.488. Video proof to come

[Shane]

I'm pretty freakin happy with my 1:18 something for my first time on that track and second time in that car!!! WHAT A BLAST!!!!!!!!!!! Huge thanks to Franz for lettin me ride along and givin me some tips!

[abot316]

I had a blast as usual. I can't complain about my time. The best part was the epic sliding battle between Sarge and I. I wish I would have got some in car video.

[mrslysly]

I wanted to play some chase with you and sarge! Im happy with the 1.15.26 I pulled at the end of the day.

Sarge had a really good one til the end where he slalomed some cones.

[TomKat]

I have the results. Will post later.

[SgtRauksauff]

Tire Test Results:

Goodyear Eagle 21.0 x 7.0 x 13 Spec Racer Ford slicks on 13x8 wheels are not the hot ticket. BUT, they are still better than any street tire I've used, and were pretty cheap too! Bias ply, so more bulging than the DOT-R's I've run in the past. Maybe having the 3° of negative camber in the front doesn't work as well for bias ply tires, but I did not have nearly the bite and turn-in that I did with the Hankooks last time. Even after several laps, and getting the tires painfully hot to the touch, it was easy to induce oversteer with just the throttle, not something that I was able to do with the Hankooks. But it was very easy to tell when the tires were sliding vs. sticking, and to modulate right at that edge. I think I need to set up the power steering system if I want to play drift much more, my wrists and forearms are actually a wee bit sore today from fighting the wheel.

It was a great day! Next time, I'm going to bring along something to bleed my brakes, I actually got them hot enough to actually need to! I wonder if it's because of the lower speeds, and the fact that I took my dryer vent tubes out. Two days at brainerd running higher speeds and braking harder than Shawano, and only at my very last run did the pedal start to get funky. Time to get some better brake ducts, especially before Milwaukee Mile!

--sarge

[northsydryd]

^my rapidschic burger test went well too,thanks steph.
yesterday was a blast, my car quit smoking and its still running good.scared me for a second but after i gave it a break it was fine.

[SgtRauksauff]

^ your car avoided it's inherent DSM-ness once again! lucky! Glad it's not broken, though; it sucks when that happens and you're a long ways from home.

;)

-sarge

[northsydryd]

i would have run it into the ground till it wouldnt go anymore.if it break a little,it might as well break alot.lol

[TomKat]

Updated official flying lap time list:

Dizmm (CWSCC)......... 03 Evo VIII........................1:10.63
TomKat (CWSCC)..........EVO 8.5 (R-Comps)..........1:12.04
GetSideWays (CWSCC)..06 Evo IX........................1:12.08
Extreme (CWSCC)....... 06 Evo IX .........................1:12.53
Dizmm (CWSCC)......... 06 Evo IX (Frank’s Evo).... 1:12.9
Extreme (CWSCC).......Bluepy.............................. .1:13.38
Tom Schulze(EVOM)......EVO X (Street Tires)............1:13.42
Ryan Griffin..................EVO X (E 85).......................1:14.13

Moss (MSCC)............. S-2000 CR (Street Tires).......1:14.48
MadCitySTi (MSC)....... 07 STi (Street Tires)........ 1:14.56
Clay............................. Mustang cobra................ 1:14.7
Sir Ringo (MSC)........... 06 Evo IX ..........................1:14.9
Mike Vida (CWSCC).........STI (Street Tires)..............1:15.22
Noah (CWSCC).............Vette (R comps).................1:15.28
Megan Solinsky (CWSCC)..EVO 8.5 (R-Comps)...........1:15.42
Paukner (WAG)..............Scirocco (Slicks)................1:15.49
Kiersten Smedegard (CWSCC)..EVO 8 (R-Comps).......1:15.54
TurboChick (CWSCC)...03 Evo VIII........................1:15.67
Deadly Evo (CWSCC)...06 Evo IX.......................... 1:16.03
TomKat (CWSCC).........Type R..............................1:16.70
Nick (evoM).................red Evo VIII (Street Tires)..1:17.21
Kronztek (CWSCC)...... Civic Hatch....................... 1:17.4
Abbott (CWSCC)..........Camaro 1LE (Street Tires.....1:17.43
Erik Hutch (MSCC).........Miata turbo (Street Tires.....1:17.90
Sarge(CWSCC).............AE86 (Slicks).....................1:17.96
Adam (Nasioc)............ 02 WRX............................ 1:18.0
Franz........................... Subie Legacy GT............. 1:18.1
PlainRT.........................Neon.............. .................1:18.28
Shane Patza...................'80 RX-7..........................1:18.82
SnowXRacer (CWSCC)......Mazda 3 Speed................1:19.08
Andy Pfaff (MSC)............Civic 2.2.........................1:19.28
Travis Watry.................Supercharged Focus...........1:19.31
GetSideWays (CWSCC)..Civic Hatch.....................1:19.35
Ashley Stockhausen.........Civic Supercharged..........1:19.37
Jeff A............................ Civic CRX .......................1:19.63
Noah (CWSCC)..............Vette (Street Tires).........1:19.75
Mark Polzin...................Audi S-5..........................1:21.06
Abbott.......................... Camaro.......................... 1:20.1
Jake Kuchta....................Integra................. ...........1:20.29
David Boodl....................RX-7 V-8..........................1:21.75
TomKat (CWSCC)..........Integra GS...................... .. 1:21.8
Robert Shampeau (CWSCC)...DSM...........................1:22.22
Tomkat (CWSCC)........... Subaru 2.5rs................. 1:22.84
RapidsChic (CWSCC)..... Civic on Hay-bails......... 1:25.44
TurboChick (CWSCC)..... Subaru 2.5rs ..................1:26.66

[snoxracer183]

Wow FWD FTL at USAIR. After looking at that list now if you think AWD isn't an advantage there you are just kidding yourself.

[mrslysly]

Wow FWD FTL at USAIR. After looking at that list now if you think AWD isn't an advantage there you are just kidding yourself.


Ahem! Blupey.....

[Extremedsm]

I am really chapped that I did not bring my uber sticky tires. Blupy was a burnout machine.

[snoxracer183]

Ahem! Blupey.....

It is a full out race car. That doesn't really make for a good example...there will always be some kind of exception. Just look at the bottom of the list...it is littered with FWD cars.

[the-moss]

My improved lap of 1:14.488. Now with video proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFvfOEsR4s

[snoxracer183]

My improved lap of 1:14.488. Now with video proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFvfOEsR4s

Timed using a different timing system, not the official CWSCC timing system.

Doesnt count! :cool:

[EVILUTION]

I see those Ohlins are treating TK well!

[Dizmm]

I see those Ohlins are treating TK well!

yes i think he's liking them. the TK vs Dizmm battle was awesome, wish i had more gas to go a few more laps and Tk had more rubber. Our cars are so so close to eachother.

[Draven8795]

yes i think he's liking them. the TK vs Dizmm battle was awesome, wish i had more gas to go a few more laps and Tk had more rubber. Our cars are so so close to eachother.


That was crazy....

[TomKat]

yes Our cars are so so close to eachother.

That was fun.

[TomKat]

My improved lap of 1:14.488. Now with video proof.


Fixed.

[TomKat]

Wow FWD FTL at USAIR. After looking at that list now if you think AWD isn't an advantage there you are just kidding yourself.

Maybe a little, but I'd still take my Vette over the EVO at Shawano.

[Extremedsm]

It is a full out race car. That doesn't really make for a good example...there will always be some kind of exception. Just look at the bottom of the list...it is littered with FWD cars.

Bah!!! Full out race cars have roll cages. :sneaky:

[mrslysly]

My improved lap of 1:14.488. Now with video proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFvfOEsR4s

My next target! We need to have a vette vs s2000 showdown.

[SgtRauksauff]

I gotta dump the Goodyears, add the Hankooks, cams, and power steering, and lower the rear spring rate. There was so much time I lost just because I had to wait until the back tires were both on the ground. Now I know what to aim for, though!

--sarge

[plainrt]

It is a full out race car. That doesn't really make for a good example...there will always be some kind of exception. Just look at the bottom of the list...it is littered with FWD cars.


Im happy with 4th fastest fwd on that track.I know its hard to keep up with the awd cars as they have advantage out of the corners big time imo.And on another note i believe if my car was gutted to the level of a certain fwd honda and had the tire it does my times could be quite a bit less also.But all in the end i give props to the sweet setup that hatch is.Its a blast to watch.

[the-moss]

My next target! We need to have a vette vs s2000 showdown.

Noooooo you cannot take my RWD track record from me!!!

[plainrt]

Noooooo you cannot take my RWD track record from me!!!



I do notice something here though................

Moss (MSCC)............. S-2000 CR (Street Tires).......1:14.48
Noah (CWSCC).............Vette (R comps).................1:15.28
Noah (CWSCC)..............Vette (Street Tires).........1:19.75

[mrslysly]

I do notice something here though................

Moss (MSCC)............. S-2000 CR (Street Tires).......1:14.48
Noah (CWSCC).............Vette (R comps).................1:15.28
Noah (CWSCC)..............Vette (Street Tires).........1:19.75

He has a 1:14 with streets and I only managed a 1:15 with r comps....

I just want to try to play chase with him!

[Shane]

could have a RWD jamboree.. i'll be the one way behind ya LOL im just a little over powered by you guys! I think i have AT LEAST a whopping 100hp under the hood. All i know is i can't wait till the next lapping day out there now that i've been on the track and got a little more seat time in the car!!

[the-moss]

Hutch (MSCC)........ S2000CR (Street Tires).......1:16.848

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0voTgeDAEys

[northsydryd]

actualy a friend of mine showed me a video about fwd rwd and awd.they matched a silvia vs integra type r silvia vs evo and showed which was best.rwd actualy pulled it out pretty much no problem.i thinkk it was call touge or somthing like that.it was done in japan with all 3 cars built,and the same 2 drivers.it was awhile ago but ya rwd out did fwd and awd

[Deadly_Evolution]

^ Yeah see no awd advantage :)

[northsydryd]

yup i have seen the light,lol

[SgtRauksauff]

could have a RWD jamboree.. i'll be the one way behind ya LOL im just a little over powered by you guys! I think i have AT LEAST a whopping 100hp under the hood. All i know is i can't wait till the next lapping day out there now that i've been on the track and got a little more seat time in the car!!

Yup, I have 8hp on you!

I think a lot of the time differences we see are familiarity with the track and the car at the same time! I didn't get any times while in it, but I'm pretty sure I was faster in my corolla than I was in Dizmm's EVO when he let me drive it.

--sarge

[Shane]

Cool! well maybe next time i can get my times down and i can chase you around

[Draven8795]

Cool! well maybe next time i can get my times down and i can chase you around

That will get the times down you can follow his line.

[plainrt]

That will get the times down you can follow his line.



Not every line works for every car.I tried playing chase with tom in his r using his lines and my car just sucked in his line lol.

[Extremedsm]

I am just chapped that I did not bring all 4 of my uber sticky tires. I guess I will have to wait till next year to take down the top time. :this_is_stupid_yo:

[EVILUTION]

Why wouldn't you bring the best tires you have?

[VPT]

Have to have some excuse.

[plainrt]

Why wouldn't you bring the best tires you have?


right? i sure know i wouldnt forget tires.I bet still was running some oversized fugly wheel setup lol

[Shane]

LOL i think bluepy looks badass with the big wide tires on stickin out the wheel wells!

[plainrt]

LOL i think bluepy looks badass with the big wide tires on stickin out the wheel wells!


i think its good function wise but ugly as sin lol

[Extremedsm]

Why wouldn't you bring the best tires you have?

I thought I would hook up ok with my other tires but that was not the case. Blupy has too much power for that much weight I guess.

I thought I was an idiot and was just driving like ass till I let Dizmm drive it and did not do any better than me.

Oh well, next year it is.

[plainrt]

I thought I would hook up ok with my other tires but that was not the case. Blupy has too much power for that much weight I guess.

I thought I was an idiot and was just driving like ass till I let Dizmm drive it and did not do any better than me.

Oh well, next year it is.


what is the motor setup in that beast by the way?

[northsydryd]

Wow FWD FTL at USAIR. After looking at that list now if you think AWD isn't an advantage there you are just kidding yourself.

here are those videos,the second video is the one i was talking about before and prolly the best one

http://www.streetfire.net/video/best-motoring-4wd-vs-2wd-touge-battle_444948.htm

http://www.streetfire.net/video/best-motoring-touge-battle-skyline-r34-vs-ae86_124734.htm

http://www.streetfire.net/video/touge-battle-skyline-gtr-vs-rx7_455684.htm

[Extremedsm]

what is the motor setup in that beast by the way?

Jackson racing supercharged B18C.

[snoxracer183]

Bluepy needs to do some laps at a track like Blackhawk...

[Deadly_Evolution]

Bluepy needs to do some laps at a track like Blackhawk...

I don't think it would be very impressive (lap times) there, but there is only one way to find out. Those tiny tires would hurt his top end.

Also doubt there is much drag on that to keep it planted at high speeds. Especially in the rear.

[the-moss]

The fastest line is always the fastest line, however how you approach, enter and exit that line are the determining factors to make it work for each car. Not all cars can carry the same entry speed, maintain it and exit with it. The line however does not change.

That's not true, many factors determine the line a particular car should take. How much traction you have on corner exit is a huge determining factor in the best line for a particular car.

A low powered rear wheel drive car will probably take a pretty parabolic line through a turn, where as a high powered fwd car may take a sharper turn-in and start straightening out pretty early in order to be able to get the power down early.

When choosing a line for a particular turn (say turn 3) you are not trying to minimize your time from turn in to track out. You are trying to minimize your time from the track out of turn 2 to the turn-in for turn 4.

[Deadly_Evolution]

The line the car takes due to mechanical limitations does not make it the fastest line. Maybe for that car and set up, but that does not make it the fastest line was my point.

I was agreeing with the original poster.

[SgtRauksauff]

I know that with the Goodyears, I was having to take a sligtly different line than with my Hankooks. The hankooks had more grip, so with the Goodyears I had to brake earlier and not as abruptly. Which drastically affected my corner exit speed (and got my brakes heated up more than previously). So I was riding that line between spinning out and rotating smoothly. I had to make the turns as shallow as possible to keep the most traction and power, and even then couldn't get on the power nearly as soon as previously.. which affected the corner entry for the next corner, so I had to go a little slower to maintain traction.. it was just a big domino effect!

--sarge

[plainrt]

wheres the new smit lol?

[Dizmm]

I'll have them up a bit later.

[Dizmm]

OP Updated!

A few made a big jump on the list.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Andy you are an animal, running street tires, and beating every single person on race rubber to date besides Getsideways and TK. Just insane guy.

[fronzoos]

Some good times! Congrats Andy!

[KARKRAFT]

Wish my tires wouldn't have chunked up so bad before my timed runs.

[Starscream]

Andy any chance you could put (All Seasons) next to that time so I can compare it for next time when I have some proper Summer tires?

Thanks,

Jay

(aka Jason B w/ the GTI)

[Deadly_Evolution]

Andy any chance you could put (All Seasons) next to that time so I can compare it for next time when I have some proper Summer tires?

Thanks,

Jay

(aka Jason B w/ the GTI)

What are these all seasons you speak of? 3 season tires + awd = all seasons :)

[Dizmm]

you mean no season tires. its either snow tire or race tire, thats the only 2 types of tires i know of.

[plainrt]

Cool cool I was on yoko ado8s and not specs.Not that really matters.They a real close tire.Im sad i didnt beat the toms time in the r lol.I had a great time even though i blew up one of my custom konis and blew up ps pump also lol.Car took a beating yesterday.Oh and i forgot to check my wheel to see if did any damage from the big ass rock that ended up on track.Next year will be fun if i keep the pos neon.Might slap in a lsd and move to stx


TomKat (CWSCC).........Type R....................................1:16.70
Jason Cote....................Neon.............. .......................1:16.81

[TomKat]

I should have brought the Type R. Would have made a good chase reace with the Neon.

Snowball did move up the ladder though. Needed both of them there.

[plainrt]

I should have brought the Type R. Would have made a good chase reace with the Neon.

Snowball did move up the ladder though. Needed both of them there.


I know it would have been fun.Ill try and keep the car for next year.I feel improved alot this season towards the end.Just little bent about the koni blowing up.Gotta see about sending the fronts both in now to be redone :{ the one is toast so figure the other front prob be done soon also.

[Dizmm]

I know it would have been fun.Ill try and keep the car for next year.I feel improved alot this season towards the end.Just little bent about the koni blowing up.Gotta see about sending the fronts both in now to be redone :{ the one is toast so figure the other front prob be done soon also.

did you see the afternoon timed results. you won!

[plainrt]

did you see the afternoon timed results. you won!



Lol yeah just saw them.I think thats keeping me from tossing it up for sale cheap to dump it off so i dont have to deal with struts and ps pump lol.Not that hard or anything though.It is fun having a car like that cause people dont expect much from it and make fun of it all the time.I enjoy that.


Thanks again i had a great time this year doing this.Ill be back next season for sure.

[the-moss]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Noah got me!

BTW my best time is now 1:14.488 not 1:14.7 :P

[Dizmm]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Noah got me!

BTW my best time is now 1:14.488 not 1:14.7 :P

you still got best RWD street tire.

[mrslysly]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Noah got me!

BTW my best time is now 1:14.488 not 1:14.7 :P


Hehehehehe.

[Ryans13]

next year i might be able to beat that, im about a 1.1 sec behind and the car has alot more if i take some front camber out and not have the parking lot alignment done a hour before. i was still understeering then right to over steer.... im street tire also: Ryan H………………………Drifting 240sx……………………….1:15.65


Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Noah got me!

BTW my best time is now 1:14.488 not 1:14.7 :P

[mrslysly]

One thing I noticed immediately when riding in the red corvette that had new springs, shocks, and suspension bushings, is how predictable and stable his car felt. 11 year old rubber mounts aren't cutting it anymore. Think I could get 1:15s with street tires..

[the-moss]

next year i might be able to beat that, im about a 1.1 sec behind and the car has alot more if i take some front camber out and not have the parking lot alignment done a hour before. i was still understeering then right to over steer.... im street tire also: Ryan H………………………Drifting 240sx……………………….1:15.65

not when I stick nails in your tires you can't.

[Deadly_Evolution]

not when I stick nails in your tires you can't.

You're so nice Moss, studding his tires for him when he's not looking.

[snoxracer183]

All of you will be chasing my time in the Mustang I buy come spring time!

[Ryans13]

not when I stick nails in your tires you can't.

I have lots of tires, better get em by the bucket ;P

[SgtRauksauff]

heh.. I hear ya on the parking lot alignment. I just put in a complete different rack and bushings (power steering FTW!!) and outer tie rods, and just used a tape measure to get it as close as I could, but it's definitely not where it should be.

I can't wait until next year, when it's actually normal temperature out.

But before that, I can't wait until this year, when it's way below normal temperature!!

[plainrt]

All of you will be chasing my time in the Mustang I buy come spring time!


I dont know about that lol.Mustangs didnt seem to do so hot there..................I know i do have a goal also.Gonna try and go for the record held by the little blue blown hatch on massive slicks and wanna do it full weight and driven to the track and almost daily driven in summer.I need 3 seconds or so from his time this year.I think a lsd and slicks will drop some good time off and a little more seat time.

[SgtRauksauff]

uh-oh! bluepy's gonna get called out!

Hmm... I oughta get Betty back in the game. Or is it Sunshine? I could never decide on a name...

--sarge

[TomKat]

Betty Sunshine?

Lofty goal plainrt. Good luck and let me know if you need any help.

Snowx - Mustang High Noon Shootout???

[Dizmm]

Snowx - Mustang High Noon Shootout???

:sneaky:

4.6L shootout at 4:60?

or if its a 5L then its at 5:00.

take your pick at what time.....

[snoxracer183]

High Noon Shootout is the best. Wild west days, riding up on our "horses" must wear cowboy boots to participate!

[TomKat]

High Noon Shootout is the best. Wild west days, riding up on our "horses" must wear cowboy boots to participate!

Done.

[devlish]

do carolina shit-kickers count??

[Extremedsm]

I dont know about that lol.Mustangs didnt seem to do so hot there..................I know i do have a goal also.Gonna try and go for the record held by the little blue blown hatch on massive slicks and wanna do it full weight and driven to the track and almost daily driven in summer.I need 3 seconds or so from his time this year.I think a lsd and slicks will drop some good time off and a little more seat time.

You do know that I had a 6K rev limiter, left it in 3rd gear the whole track and had my shitty tires on when I ran that time?

[Dizmm]

You do know that I had a 6K rev limiter, left it in 3rd gear the whole track and had my shitty tires on when I ran that time?

thats 3 excuses rolled into 1.

bluepy on its perfect day should be in the 1:09's.

[plainrt]

excuses excuses excuses.......Lol jk.Its a lofty goal but again it was only first year doing this stuff my times where with traffic and passing them.Im on little street tires compared to big slicks and im running one wheel wonder diff that sucks on corner exits in the ups and downs.And im at full weight.There my sorry ass excuses.Btw why the hell would you leave in 3rd gear?

[ZXTUNER]

[QUOTE=plainrtBtw why the hell would you leave in 3rd gear?[/QUOTE]

it like a supra huge power in 4th gear

[plainrt]

and i didnt say wanna beat him next year.I meant wanna beat the current record he has set.I feel car can run in the 1.13s with few things and more driving.If dont think just a lsd and slicks will drop a good chunk off alone something wrong.

[99Cobra]

Done.

I can do it... I even have snake skin cowboy boots.

[TomKat]

do carolina shit-kickers count??

I think you mean "Rosholt Hill Climbers". They do not count.

[SgtRauksauff]

cowboy boots for driving is bad!! not enough ankle flexion, which really ruins the heel-toe effect. plus, most of those boots have really smooth bottoms, and will mess with your pedal placement.

Granted, it's a mustang, and most likely meant for such boots, so there probably won't really be a problem.

--sarge

[TomKat]

Sarge. Everyone knows you have to have cowboy boots to ride a Mustang. Sheesh.

Years ago at a Milwaukee autocross there was a guy with a Trans Am next to me in grid wearing cowboy boots. LOL.

[Extremedsm]

Btw why the hell would you leave in 3rd gear?

If I put it in second, it would instantly have to be shifted into third gear due to the 6K rev limiter. Rev limiter was due to not enough fuel.

[plainrt]

If I put it in second, it would instantly have to be shifted into third gear due to the 6K rev limiter. Rev limiter was due to not enough fuel.


that makes sense.Next year i wanna see some crazy numbers out of that thing.Its always fun to watch that beast.btw what it weigh?

[Extremedsm]

1700 without me and an empty tank.

[plainrt]

1700 without me and an empty tank.


Nice.Very nice.Like said my goal is only to get in the 1.13s where you were on your poor run.Any more then that is out of the ? for the way i wanna keep car.Get that thing out next year more.:drool:

[Ryans13]

which car is 1700lbs? my 240 was 2560 3/4 to full tank. last time i had it on a scale. i took the hvac system out since then from under the dash, so it probally around 2500lbs now. thats pretty piggy for a s13 chasis, one of my friends has one around 2100lbs.

[plainrt]

which car is 1700lbs? my 240 was 2560 3/4 to full tank. last time i had it on a scale. i took the hvac system out since then from under the dash, so it probally around 2500lbs now. thats pretty piggy for a s13 chasis, one of my friends has one around 2100lbs.


the blue tin can...........

[Ryans13]

the blue tin can...........
there are alot of tin cans................ the funny aqua DSM?

[DontStopMe]

which car is 1700lbs?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs186.snc4/37645_447495055803_523890803_6443775_3545525_n.jpg

[David Hillman]

I had never seen this thread before, and was wondering, does anyone know when someone first ran low 1:14s in a 2WD? 'Cause I ran this lap, which is around a 1:14.3-4 almost six and a half years ago. I think this was the first event ever here.

http://planet-torque.com/ms/cwscc102404/shawano.wmv

'91 MR2T with Konis and a front swaybar on baked 195/60-14 Goodyear GS-CS that I bought from a roadracer for $100 and threw away following that event.

I just want to update my resume with "CWSCC Track Record Holder for _________" ;)

Thanks.

[TomKat]

Looks good David. Back in the old days before the berms.

It's up to Dizmm to post the times. He's in charge of that. I wish I could find my old lap times.

[Getsideways]

Good another FWD time to shoot for .

[Dizmm]

Good another FWD time to shoot for .

MR2,... = RWD.

we'll have to review that video, and have a meeting to vote on it. from there we'll send the video into our special boosted films director, he'll be in charge of examining the video for authenticity. Then we'll need you to sign a contract stating who you are, the car and mod list, and the day/time you ran said time. we need a blood sample too...

sorry standard procedure.

[David Hillman]

MR2,... = RWD.

we'll have to review that video, and have a meeting to vote on it. from there we'll send the video into our special boosted films director, he'll be in charge of examining the video for authenticity. Then we'll need you to sign a contract stating who you are, the car and mod list, and the day/time you ran said time. we need a blood sample too...

sorry standard procedure.

Understood. I'll just keep an eye out for my framed commemorative Certificate of Record in the mail. Thanks.

[05Saab]

Was that video before the track had rumble strips? Plus it looks all nice and new lol (I know the track isn't that old anyways, but still, looks so nice)

[David Hillman]

Was that video before the track had rumble strips? Plus it looks all nice and new lol (I know the track isn't that old anyways, but still, looks so nice)

I can't say what they've changed since then, since I haven't been back since. Like I said, though, I think that day was the first time cars were driven on that track in anger, or pretty close. I recall that we were warned not to go off track onto their freshly sodded grass ( and a few people did, anyway ). The track surface was perfect, but green. I think I ran about 50 laps that day, and for the next couple years, I told everyone who would listen to drive up there and check out that track with you guys.

[DontStopMe]

That video was before the track had any buildings!

[TomKat]

That was the second year after the track was made.

There have been a lot of changes since then.

[Hoodpin1]

Just watched my video from October. I hope more cars sign up. Cant wait for this weekend!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGEo8Xoc17E

[Getsideways]

I didnt Know The Krautmobile was nearly the fastest street tire FWD , on a crappy day on worn out street tires awesome.

[Dizmm]

I'll update the times later today.

[shaggy4267]

I'll update the times later today.

Whens later?

[Dizmm]

shit, a little later....

[2.5rallyrs]

shit, a little later....
lol any updates on the times yet, im growing impatient :p

[Dizmm]

shit! times are at home, i'll update tonight, promise.

[Gruv]

Lies. :P

[Dizmm]

sorry guys. how can i make it up to you? F&F5 Date night? maybe dinner before,....

[EVILUTION]

Free tacos on tt would be sufficient

[Dizmm]

Free tacos on tt would be sufficient

fine, 1 free taco for all.

[devlish]

i'll show up for this. what time? :-)

[Dizmm]

8pm.

[shaggy4267]

I'm not driving that far for a free taco dammit.

[northsydryd]

I'm not driving that far for a free taco dammit.

so worth it though....sally

[shaggy4267]

I'll sally you one...smart ass

[Dizmm]

c'mon shaggy, i thought you were fast. TT Version.STIX leaves in 20min.

[northsydryd]

why you gotta call me names?thats not nice,now i need a happy meal
well since he obviously doesnt find tt as important as we do,il take his taco.lol

[Hoodpin1]

Im still laughing that I when 1.5 seconds faster N/A then i did supercharged. Gonna edit the gopro stuff, hopefully have it up by the end of the week.

[northsydryd]

less burning out in the corners,your not going forward when you wheels are spinning

[Hoodpin1]

less burning out in the corners,your not going forward when you wheels are spinning

Really didnt spin tire with the SC. I think i just drove the car harder, lol.

[shaggy4267]

c'mon shaggy, i thought you were fast. TT Version.STIX leaves in 20min.

Not fast enough..

Thanks for the update.

[Getsideways]

Hmm just a little way to go to catch bluepy

[northsydryd]

ya did that last year,undsersized tires and a heavy foot

[Gruv]

Updates? :this_is_stupid_yo:

[shaggy4267]

I believe it was updated in the first post....

[Gruv]

I don't see my times?

[05Saab]

I don't see my times?

Did you ask to be timed? It's impossible to just time everyone without knowing who wants to be timed

[Dizmm]

I don't see my times?

I'll go back and check the sheet. whats your first name?

[Gruv]

Rob P. Prelude 4ws Si. :)

[jolivergraham]

"John G…………………………..Musical R32……………………1:22.29"

hahaha, Musical R32. That's fantastic! Not the best time ever, but I'm willing to spend some time improving.

Thanks for posting!

[Gruv]

No recollection? I think I was a 1:23.05 or something.

[TomKat]

I thought I saw a time written down for the Prelude. I'll check what paperwork I have for that event.

[Getsideways]

I wrote your time down it says yellow prelude , it was a 1:22 or 23 dont remember the exact

[Gruv]

Oh it was definitely 1:22 flat then. :P

[Dizmm]

1:22.39

[deracer]

Any time for a red Camaro? I think it was a 1:16 something with street tires.

[TomKat]

Yes the Camaro did a 1:16 something. Dizmm do you have these times?

[Dizmm]

1:16.64. whats your name, i can add it to the OP.

[Gruv]

That camaro hauled balls. LS1 FTW.

[deracer]

Oh didn't see this. Michael C; street tires

[Dizmm]

New lap times from sunday have been posted. Nice job Mike!!!

[Deadly_Evolution]

New lap times from sunday have been posted. Nice job Mike!!!

X2 Damn guy!

[Deadly_Evolution]

Also where are the times from the second to last run at these? They were never updated.