G-tech pro

[mattsubishi]

I just got my g-tech pro yesterday so if anyone wants to use let me know. There will be nominal fee of zero dollars.
I don't want a buch of posts about how it isn't accurate. that is a bucn of shit. The old g-tech is not even close . The new one is dead on. I took one with me to kaukauna and and used it during my runs and was never more than .01 seconds off over the course of for runs, and the mile an hour was within .5
I hoping this will put an end to " this guy beat this guy, and he beat that guy and I beat that guy and guy # 7 ran blah blah , so that means I'm running a blah blah."
I will be accompaniying however as the bracket is complicated and I dont want it broken.

[Pointdsm]

cool, is it still extremely sensitive at launch like the first one was, the wind could blow and the time would start with that thing.

[devlish]

i remember when the first gtechs came out... man, that was a LONG time ago. i borrowed one from a speedshop in Appleton when i lived there, brought it back for the weekend... and EVERYONE borrowed it that weekend. it was a blast!! that was over 7years ago!!

anyways, when it warms up mattsubishi, i'll take you up on the offer... i have 3 cars i'd be interested in timing that way, vs. taking them to the track. i'll buy you a beer or two since the nominal fee is zero$$. sounds fair to me if you're game?

[Crazy Jon]

That souds like a good time it should be fun to see how slow the beaters are this winter.

[TheSolMan]

That souds like a good time it should be fun to see how slow the beaters are this winter.

I wouldn't mind seeing how slow my car is. That would be pretty cool. Get some numbers to compare when I get the new motor. :D

[mattsubishi]

this one works mint. you dont have to fuck with it for 2 miinutes getting to say zero . you could mount it sideways and it would still work cause it has 3 accelerometers.

[fordssuck]

Just wanted to say thank you matt for letting me use your G-tech.

[EVILUTION]

Those numbers must be a secret as the results have not been posted here.

[fordssuck]

Hmm... if I remember correctly I ran a 13.2something with matt in the truck with my 93 octane tune, I still have my 110octane tune to test, but I forgot to get race gas that morning to test it. so those results are still unknown. My 60 foot times were about 2 seconds flat and i hope to improve, and my 0-60 mph time was 4.7 seconds

I raced casey with my stock tune (no chip) and lost by a a few inches, VERY VERY close. Had a blast racing him... He seems like a really great guy.

[smuT]

according to that thing i have about the same horsepower as a john deere lawn tractor.

[EVILUTION]

Low 13s on pump is no joke. That 110 tune should be good for about 60whp on your truck.

[fordssuck]

Tune specs say 40hp

[EVILUTION]

Then its conservative.....(read: safe)

[fordssuck]

Safe or.... run a little giggle juice... hehe

[EVILUTION]

True true.... that would be neat to see. I'm actually surprised you haven't put the bottle on. You already own the system so the out of pocket cost would be about $5/run. That is the cheapest bang for buck you're gonna find. With the bottle you should lay waste to nearly all point machines. Even if you add something small like a 75 shot which would be very safe on that motor you would still be shit piles faster.

[fordssuck]

Motor is safe for 125 shot with a different tune.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Motor is safe for 125 shot with a different tune.

Mmm, I will be laughing when your bottum end goes /@#$#@#$!#@$!(*(*

Those stock 5.4's are not as strong as you think

[fordssuck]

Your right dizmm, all 1498 guys on the lightning forum with the exact same setup must be wrong.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Your right dizmm, all 1498 guys on the lightning forum with the exact same setup must be wrong.

Guy, I used to be big into the modular stuff, its just like any other engine, you add 100+ more hp to a stock motor, it wont handle it that long.

[fordssuck]

Your right dizmm, all 1498 guys on the lightning forum with the exact same setup must be wrong.

Guy, I used to be big into the modular stuff, its just like any other engine, you add 100+ more hp to a stock motor, it wont handle it that long.

Like a supra? I hear you cant add over 100hp to them, your full of shit...

[VPT]

Your right dizmm, all 1498 guys on the lightning forum with the exact same setup must be wrong.

Guy, I used to be big into the modular stuff, its just like any other engine, you add 100+ more hp to a stock motor, it wont handle it that long.


Some motors.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I dont care what motor you have, you add 100 more hp, you wont get the same longevity as a stock engine.

[cashsaudio]

Your right dizmm, all 1498 guys on the lightning forum with the exact same setup must be wrong.

Guy, I used to be big into the modular stuff, its just like any other engine, you add 100+ more hp to a stock motor, it wont handle it that long.

look up info on a 2jz there's enough with all stock internal even with stock cams no port and polish etc. All was upgraded was ECU, turbo, injectors with a tune then run 700+rwhp all day (of course with 110 race gas).

NSX with just a add up on turbo kit and AEM can run 500HP (also with bigger injectors) on pump gas.

Ford GT40 just change from supercharger to twin turbos. over 1000rwhp stock bottom end.

Of course all of these cars ain't cheap but doing these cars can last long. I've heard a few NSX with a turbo setup running over 40k miles with alot of track time too.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

what I am saying is this:

take 2 cars, put them side by side, put enough mods on one to make it have 100 more hp and run them all day long, on and off throttle, and see what one will last longer.

[fordssuck]

with a 125 shot my motor will have plenty of life, the supercharger heat eats up alot of the nitrous. Ex. 125 shot=100 shot on a lightning.

Ill put my lightning up next to a dsm, and add 8psi of boost on my truck and ill bet it will run longer then it.

[TSi_II]

Agreed ^^^^^

Take any of those cars, and add the extra stress created by the forced induction or whatever route you choose, and it won't even come close to the length of time that same motor in stock condion would last. As TK says... Stick With Stock (you should get a t-shirt or something)

[cashsaudio]

what I am saying is this:

take 2 cars, put them side by side, put enough mods on one to make it have 100 more hp and run them all day long, on and off throttle, and see what one will last longer.

I say a dsm doesn't last either way if it stock or not lol

[TSi_II]

Ya know what can get put through one hell of a beating? racESCORTS. I remember a brick on the gas pedal for a good 25 minutes with laquer thinner and shit, blowing a rod out and STILL running. That fucker was tough. I'd like to see a Talon or Supra do that shit.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I've seen some DSM's go through A LOT. I bet if you put your lightening in the hands of some teenage kid that dont know shit about cars, it would not run that long either.

[Extremedsm]

with a 125 shot my motor will have plenty of life, the supercharger heat eats up alot of the nitrous. Ex. 125 shot=100 shot on a lightning.

Ill put my lightning up next to a dsm, and add 8psi of boost on my truck and ill bet it will run longer then it.

Don't know if I am reading this right but are you saying if you spray 125 at your truck that it will only be a 100 gain?

BS!!! Any forced induction vehicle has a way better gain with spray than an n/a vehicle unless the forced induction vehicle has a huge intercooler.

I would like to see you spray a 50 shot at an n/a vehicle and pick up a full second in a quarter mile like a dsm will.

[EVILUTION]

The returns on the truck won't be as great because of its weight but that hot supercharged air will love something as small as a 50 shot for intercooling purposes alone.

[Extremedsm]

Weight does not have nothing to do with the hp gains of NAAAAAWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

[Pointdsm]

On a dsm though, isn't it better to simply raise the boost level, instead of going with nitrous. Why don't you add an aftercooler for your supercharger?

Nevermind, wrong kind of supercharger..right?

[TomKat]

I believe those trucks are already intercooled.

[VPT]

Longevity of a motor isn't based on how much hp it puts out. Longevity of a motor is based on assembly, quality of the parts, MAINTENENCE, fluids used, ect.

I know someone will argue and say i am all wrong, so I will say in advance prove it either way.

[cashsaudio]

Longevity of a motor isn't based on how much hp it puts out. Longevity of a motor is based on assembly, quality of the parts, MAINTENENCE, fluids used, ect.

I know someone will argue and say i am all wrong, so I will say in advance prove it either way.

I agree with this guy 100%

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Longevity of a motor isn't based on how much hp it puts out. Longevity of a motor is based on assembly, quality of the parts, MAINTENENCE, fluids used, ect.

I know someone will argue and say i am all wrong, so I will say in advance prove it either way.

what you are saying is right, but if that engine was built factory with 300hp, then I would say yes it will last just as long as en engine built factory with 200hp. BUT, if you take that same factory engine with 300hp, an add an extra 100hp, 999 times out of a 1000, that engine with the stock 300hp WILL outlast the one with an extra 100hp on it.

[EVILUTION]

I dont really care what the G-tech pro claims...... it doesn't mean shit at Blackhawk Farms.

As far as motor life goes..... that is hit or miss.... Parts fail for various reasons sometimes its just bad luck.

Mine usually fail because I beat the fucking piss out of my vehicles daily if it breaks big fucking deal I'll make it better. Some people store their car during the winter, drive a shit box around town (or never leave the house), trailer their car to the strip, and mistakenly consider less than a minute worth of actual track time is still a great day of racing, and there shit still doesn't run 90% of the time. What a joke.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I dont really care what the G-tech pro claims...... it doesn't mean shit at Blackhawk Farms.

As far as motor life goes..... that is hit or miss.... Parts fail for various reasons sometimes its just bad luck.

Mine usually fail because I beat the fucking piss out of my vehicles daily if it breaks big fucking deal I'll make it better. Some people store their car during the winter, drive a shit box around town (or never leave the house), trailer their car to the strip, and mistakenly consider less than a minute worth of actual track time is still a great day of racing, and there shit still doesn't run 90% of the time. What a joke.

I will have to agree, a quarter mile will show how fast a car is, but BHF will show how fast the "DRIVER" is.

[fordssuck]

with a 125 shot my motor will have plenty of life, the supercharger heat eats up alot of the nitrous. Ex. 125 shot=100 shot on a lightning.

Ill put my lightning up next to a dsm, and add 8psi of boost on my truck and ill bet it will run longer then it.

Don't know if I am reading this right but are you saying if you spray 125 at your truck that it will only be a 100 gain?

BS!!! Any forced induction vehicle has a way better gain with spray than an n/a vehicle unless the forced induction vehicle has a huge intercooler.

I would like to see you spray a 50 shot at an n/a vehicle and pick up a full second in a quarter mile like a dsm will.

ROOTS STYLE SUPERCHARGER!!!!

n20 hits hot rotors..... n20 temp is raised..... n20 "dilluted by heat"

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

maybe I am wrong here but isn't it NOT good to go from extremely hot to extremely cold bad. Few examples: hot exhaust header and cold water splashes on it from the road can cause the exhaust header to crack. Or how about the invention of a turbo timer, it allows the turbo to cool down at a slower pace before complete shutting the engine off.

[fordssuck]

maybe I am wrong here but isn't it NOT good to go from extremely hot to extremely cold bad. Few examples: hot exhaust header and cold water splashes on it from the road can cause the exhaust header to crack. Or how about the invention of a turbo timer, it allows the turbo to cool down at a slower pace before complete shutting the engine off.

Even with n20 injection air intake temps and rotor temps dont decrease as much as you think they would on a roots s/c car.

[Extremedsm]

with a 125 shot my motor will have plenty of life, the supercharger heat eats up alot of the nitrous. Ex. 125 shot=100 shot on a lightning.

Ill put my lightning up next to a dsm, and add 8psi of boost on my truck and ill bet it will run longer then it.

Don't know if I am reading this right but are you saying if you spray 125 at your truck that it will only be a 100 gain?

BS!!! Any forced induction vehicle has a way better gain with spray than an n/a vehicle unless the forced induction vehicle has a huge intercooler.

I would like to see you spray a 50 shot at an n/a vehicle and pick up a full second in a quarter mile like a dsm will.

ROOTS STYLE SUPERCHARGER!!!!

n20 hits hot rotors..... n20 temp is raised..... n20 "dilluted by heat"

DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!! It is still cooling it down big time. Any forced induction vehicle will have better gains with NAWWWWSSSSS than an N/A car.

[Extremedsm]

maybe I am wrong here but isn't it NOT good to go from extremely hot to extremely cold bad. Few examples: hot exhaust header and cold water splashes on it from the road can cause the exhaust header to crack. Or how about the invention of a turbo timer, it allows the turbo to cool down at a slower pace before complete shutting the engine off.

Even with n20 injection air intake temps and rotor temps dont decrease as much as you think they would on a roots s/c car.

Go put a 300hp roots type forced induction car on the dyno and add 100hp spray. Then go and do the same with a 300hp N/A car. See who gains more.

[TomKat]

Who gains more? The repair shops and part suppliers.

[EVILUTION]

Actually .... the temps coming out of an efficient intercooler on a 90* day shouldn't be over 120*. Nitrous is shit tons colder than ambient temp that measly 30* shouldn't have much of an effect. Now if you are running a turbo out of its efficiency range and your IC isn't very good then I suggest fixing that before adding juice.

In the end....nitrous doesn't make its power from temperature its simply more oxygen. More air and fuel more power.

[Crazy Jon]

I really want to g tech my new crx.

[Extremedsm]

NAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSS is forced inductions best friend. :D

[Crazy Jon]

N/A likes NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS TOOOOOOOOOO

[EVILUTION]

Nitrous is the best bang for buck mod out there.

[Mr. Fuji]

NOS is cool! But here's the deal, "Back in the day", we would clamp our or needle nose vice-grips on the Waist-gate vacume line!!!! Now that was Bang for the buck! Almost BIG BANG

[Extremedsm]

Nitrous is the best bang for buck mod out there.

Depends if the bottle is always on. If you like to play around town with it on, it gets quite expensive.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

My input: NOS is cheating unless both parties have it.

[TomKat]

Cheating?? It's all about cheating.

As Big Erv from Big Erv Motorsports and Paint says: You have two types of racers:

1. Cheaters

2. Losers

[EVILUTION]

Big Erv.... I hear he's all but divorced from racing activities. His hondata ass should be going to BHFs.

[TomKat]

Big Erv.... I hear he's all but divorced from racing activities. His hondata ass should be going to BHFs.

Not true. Big Erv from Big Erv Motorsports and Paint has bought tires for this years activities. You should give his arse a call.

[Crazy Jon]

this is street racing there's no cheating. there's no rules

[Extremedsm]

I need one of the big bottles, no make it two. :shock:

[ZXTUNER]

you watching that right now huh?

[devlish]

My input: NOS is cheating unless both parties have it. does that mean that if both cars aren't boosted, it's cheating?? what if a stock DSM races a Type R?? good race, but is the DSM cheating because he has boost and the type r does not??

if adding N20 evens things out, why is it cheating?

[TomKat]

Well the Type R is cheating because it has V-Tak.

[Extremedsm]

Honda's need all the cheating they can get just to keep up with a stock dsm. :twisted:

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

My input: NOS is cheating unless both parties have it. does that mean that if both cars aren't boosted, it's cheating?? what if a stock DSM races a Type R?? good race, but is the DSM cheating because he has boost and the type r does not??

if adding N20 evens things out, why is it cheating?

there are many stipulations in my theory, such as if one has a turbo, the other can have NOS, so a DSM vs a type R is fair as DSM has turbo, Type R has v-tAk.

But on a serious note. NOS is just hp in a bottle, and when that bottle goes out after a few passes, ur SOL. So if someone wants to race when ur take is empty, well now your the pussy becuase ur either gonna make excuses, or ur gonna race and lose.

[TomKat]

Like Extreme said. I need one of the big bottles. No make it two. :shock:

[EVILUTION]

Back in the day I had two.

[TomKat]

There you go Dizmm. Running out is never an issue. :? Ish.

[Extremedsm]

Back in the day I had two.

I still have your back up bottle.