"do you even know what e85 is??"

[Britnay]

Over the weekend i was proudly bragging about how well hlm's evo preforms on e85. some people were evidently annoyed with my comments and decided to rudely ask me "britt do you even know what e85 is??" well i may be blonde, but i'm not a dumbass.

so...i did some research just for you dizmm...


All the information was found on the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition website. here are just a few frequetly asked questions that i copied and pasted for your knowings :)



What is E85?
E85 is the term for motor fuel blends of 85 percent ethanol and just 15 percent gasoline. E85 is an alternative fuel as defined by the U.S. Department of Energy. Besides its superior performance characteristics, ethanol burns cleaner than gasoline; it is a completely renewable, domestic, environmentally friendly (http://www.e85fuel.com/information/environment.php) fuel that enhances the nation's economy (http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/economy.php) and energy independence (http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/independence.php).

Today, the U. S. imports more than half of its oil, and overall consumption continues to increase. By supporting ethanol production and use, U.S. drivers can help reverse that trend. 85% ethanol can reduce pollution. Government tests have shown that E85 vehicles reduce harmful hydrocarbon and benzene emissions when compared to vehicles running on gasoline. E85 can also reduce carbon dioxide (CO2), a harmful greenhouse gas and a major contributor to global warming.

Although CO2 is released during ethanol production and combustion, it is recaptured as a nutrient to the crops that are used in its production. Unlike fossil fuel combustion, which unlocks carbon that has been stored for millions of years, use of ethanol results in low increases to the carbon cycle.

Ethanol also degrades quickly in water and, therefore, poses much less risk to the environment than an oil or gasoline spill.


What is the range of a flexible fuel vehicle?
Ethanol has less energy content than gasoline. However, E85 also has a much higher octane (ranging from 96 to 105) than gasoline. FFVs are not optimized to E85, so they experience a 10-15% drop in fuel economy. This will vary based on the way one drives, the air pressure in the tires, and additional driving conditions.

E85 is actually E70 in the winter months as to assist in cold starting problems. A listing of when the fuel blend should change is located in the Handbook for Handling, Storing and Dispensing E85 (http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/http%7C//www.e85fuel.com/pdf/storing-handling-e85.pdf).

For comparison purposes, aggressive driving habits can result in a 20% loss and low tire pressure can reduce mileage by 6%. Research indicates Ford FFVs experience a 5% horsepower gain on E85. The range of any particular vehicle is dependent on the size of the fuel tank and driving habits. Current Ford Taurus FFVs have an 18-gallon fuel tank and will normally travel 350 miles between refuelings.

E85. Clean. Renewable. 105 Octane. Made in the USA.

http://www.e85fuel.com/index2.php

[Extremedsm]

I am growing some corn in the back yard. I am going to make some E85 out of my corn and convert my car over to being cornfed so I can brag it up too.

[Britnay]

I am growing some corn in the back yard. I am going to make some E85 out of my corn and convert my car over to being cornfed so I can brag it up too.


have fun getting a alignment somewere els tomorrow!!!

this is Jesse by the way, just reading over this thread britt brought to my attention

[JTM]

hahaha. Really, u went there? haha There is always some kind of smack talk when there is competition and if someones girl (Brit) is that into cars and wants to step up, awesome. Still think u should have ran the "celica chick" LOL

[Extremedsm]

have fun getting a alignment somewere els tomorrow!!!

this is Jesse by the way, just reading over this thread britt brought to my attention

Shit happens.............

[highline_motorsports]

Shit happens.............

I guess so!!

[05Saab]

Still think u should have ran the "celica chick" LOL

I saw her...that thing looked decent, sounded ok. But even I would've ran against her. lol

[JTM]

I saw her...that thing looked decent, sounded ok. But even I would've ran against her. lol


Pretty sure that was her BF car. On another note, never seen the face close up but everything else looked good. Damn, I should have ran her.

[05Saab]

Pretty sure that was her BF car. On another note, never seen the face close up but everything else looked good. Damn, I should have ran her.

I saw her.....she was good :cool:

[Britnay]

Still think u should have ran the "celica chick" LOL


"show me your tittys" HAHAH... i'm still laughing from my poor man voice this weekend. next year i'll have something to drive, jesse and i already decided that we're going to find me an evo :) i woulda ran against her in the "e85 evo" but i woulda wiped her out lol... it wouldn't of even been a fair race.

[Britnay]

Pretty sure that was her BF car. On another note, never seen the face close up but everything else looked good. Damn, I should have ran her.


WHAT?? i also saw her, i thought she was hott until i got up close lol...she had a decent body but was definetly a but-er-face. no good, no good.

[JTM]

"show me your tittys" HAHAH... i'm still laughing from my poor man voice this weekend. next year i'll have something to drive, jesse and i already decided that we're going to find me an evo :) i woulda ran against her in the "e85 evo" but i woulda wiped her out lol... it wouldn't of even been a fair race.



O u didnt hear, she was gonna be rockin my Z for that race.

[highline_motorsports]

^^^ OH SHiT!!! Maybe in the back seat... hahaha

[highline_motorsports]

I am growing some corn in the back yard. I am going to make some E85 out of my corn and convert my car over to being cornfed so I can brag it up too.

petty sure u dont need to grow e-85 for bragging rites, ur car has double the power my car does..

And Britt is just proud of my car on the e-85 setup, because I didnt waste alot of money into this car like i did into my 8.

And she can still drive it like its stock..

[05Saab]

WHAT?? i also saw her, i thought she was hott until i got up close lol...she had a decent body but was definetly a but-er-face. no good, no good.

Oh...yeah i didn't see her like CLOSE! but from my car to hers. Didn't seem to bad lol but it was prolly the tint making her look good lmao

[JTM]

^^^ OH SHiT!!! Maybe in the back seat... hahaha


Would have been fine with me.... granted the car would have never left park.

[highline_motorsports]

Oh...yeah i didn't see her like CLOSE! but from my car to hers. Didn't seem to bad lol but it was prolly the tint making her look good lmao

LOL.. Yeah she was nothing great above the neck!!

[highline_motorsports]

Would have been fine with me.... granted the car would have never left park.

Good then my car would have had a chance against urs...

[JTM]

May have found Big Jon a vette finally. And it's pretty setup already. Just have to see what kind of deal the guy wants to swing.

[highline_motorsports]

May have found Big Jon a vette finally. And it's pretty setup already. Just have to see what kind of deal the guy wants to swing.

That is awesome!! What year??

[JTM]

That is awesome!! What year??



1999 FRC:

Torch red
6 speed
Motor has 3,500 miles on it
body has 140,000 but claims to look like it has 40,000
Like new Black leather
aftermarket heads w/ Ls6 intake
LS6 cam
Full Z06 suspension

Guys needs something he can put a car seat in and likes his superduty. So may trade straight up hopefully. Thats what Jon is shooting for.

Im thinkn he will either wreck it in a month or lose his license the 1st day he has it. haha No JOKE

[highline_motorsports]

1999 FRC:

Torch red
6 speed
Motor has 3,500 miles on it
body has 140,000 but claims to look like it has 40,000
Like new Black leather
aftermarket heads w/ Ls6 intake
LS6 cam
Full Z06 suspension

Guys needs something he can put a car seat in and likes his superduty. So may trade straight up hopefully. Thats what Jon is shooting for.

Im thinkn he will either wreck it in a month or lose his license the 1st day he has it. haha No JOKE


I cant believe he would get rid of his truck!! but that is a badass car!

[JTM]

I cant believe he would get rid of his truck!! but that is a badass car!



I looked all winter for him and a few deals fell through. Crossing my fingers on this one. Yea, truck is pretty sweet though. But I think this summer will be a summer full of car shows and cruises. I went to more shows and cruises then I have in 3 years already this spring. haha

[TomKat]

Pretty sure that was her BF car.

No that was her car.

[highline_motorsports]

No that was her car.

YUP, her bf's car was the GTO

[Dizmm]

wow, brit, you learned to copy and paste.

Brit, I think you are oblivious to a lot of things. You make your decisions based on the judgments of other’s. You have a loud mouth and become very obnoxious to the entire group. “show me your titties” are you serious? Why brit, why? What is the deal with drawing that type of attention to yourself? What is the reasoning?

I really think you should be focused on other things.

[mrslysly]

That chicks face was pretty nasty. Don't think she could smile without cracking the 4 lbs of makeup she had on. Its pretty sweet e85 can put down that much power with stock parts! Love the exhaust thou. You could hear that ALL the way down the strip loud as day.

I'd love to see jon in a vette. He'd be the only person that would do a burnout whenever you asked him too. He'll be the first guy drifting down central during the day.

[mrslysly]

wow, brit, you learned to copy and paste.

Brit, I think you are oblivious to a lot of things. You make your decisions based on the judgments of other’s. You have a loud mouth and become very obnoxious to the entire group. “show me your titties” are you serious? Why brit, why? What is the deal with drawing that type of attention to yourself? What is the reasoning?

I really think you should be focused on other things.


I just want to hear brit say "I'm here for your massage" in her hoarse man voice again!

[Deadly_Evolution]

This forum never lets me down when I need a good laugh. :)

[highline_motorsports]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Brit, I think you are oblivious to a lot of things.

What is she so oblivious to???





You make your decisions based on the judgments of other’s.

Pretty sure she knows what she wants all the time and doesnt care what anyone els thinks of it.





You have a loud mouth and become very obnoxious to the entire group. “show me your titties” are you serious? Why brit, why? What is the deal with drawing that type of attention to yourself?

What is the reasoning?

Just to have a good time, I would rather have a g/f that is happy to be at the dells car show and have a good time instead of standing there saying "I didnt come here to stare at cars all day".






I really think you should be focused on other things.


And if this is intended to be a "good" mother, then i really think u need to retract ur statment, cause Britt is one of the best, just because she had a good time in the dells makes her a bad mom?!?!? I think not..

[Dizmm]

My post said nothing about her parenting skills.

I said what I said and don’t care to argue about it, I'm done with this thread.

[VPT]

TK likes drama.

[highline_motorsports]

My post said nothing about her parenting skills.

I said what I said and don’t care to argue about it, I'm done with this thread.



"I really think you should be focused on other things."


I guess i took that comment the wrong way then!?!? Im not argueing just clearing some unnessary comments.

[devlish]

some people are just immature i guess (not in a bad way always). we've all done and said stupid things, myself included.
and eventually we all get better at learning when to keep our mouths shut, and when to open them.

that not directed at anyone at all, just a thought i had that applies to a lot of what happened this weekend regarding this thread. take it for what it's worth.

i have to agree with nick, this forum never disapoints!!

and right now, i'm going to keep my mouth shut.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Them sound like fighting words...

[Kiley]

jesus

[Britnay]

wow, brit, you learned to copy and paste.

Brit, I think you are oblivious to a lot of things. You make your decisions based on the judgments of other’s. You have a loud mouth and become very obnoxious to the entire group. “show me your titties” are you serious? Why brit, why? What is the deal with drawing that type of attention to yourself? What is the reasoning?

I really think you should be focused on other things.

wow andy..it's funny how i was trying to prove you wrong, that i do know about some shit. but clearly you've proven your point..YOUR A DICK. and if i could yell it over the forum, i would-since i'm such a loud mouth...and that is what i think, i didn't bum my opinion off someone else. and i don't give a shit about what anyone thinks of that :) i guess for now on i will just keep my mouth shut or maybe i'll just bitch about everything like someone else's gf i know.

i'm pretty disappoined in your rude comments andy. when the only thing i was trying to do was to prove to you that your wrong on this subject. your not the only person in the world that knows about cars. just becasue you (think) know everything doesn't mean i can't learn about them...

[SSLEVO]

Idk what all of the bs is about but E85 is the shit! My evo is making 350 whp/370 ft-lbs on the stock 8 cams and intercooler with a IX turbo. After some cams and an intercooler i think i will be shooting for 400/400 next year.

[Britnay]

i love how this thread has turned into a complete stab on me.

ps andy..i love how if someone else woulda wrote those words. "ADMIN" woulda had them deleted. but since your god..you can do and say whatever you want right??

[BLAQK]

loud as day

define

hey kurt, its really too bad that IS didn't end up in a ditch or on fire or something this weekend

[Britnay]

Idk what all of the bs is about but E85 is the shit! My evo is making 350 whp/370 ft-lbs on the stock 8 cams and intercooler with a IX turbo. After some cams and an intercooler i think i will be shooting for 400/400 next year.


wow...i think that is AWESOME. so far i'm in love with the e85. the only down side that jesse and i have found out is that not all gas stations carry it. we had to drive outta the way this weekend to find it. so if you're running low you better know where your next fill up is gonna be before you run out :)

[BLAQK]

btw this thread might as well be moved to the "complete dead end section"

[highline_motorsports]

Idk what all of the bs is about but E85 is the shit! My evo is making 350 whp/370 ft-lbs on the stock 8 cams and intercooler with a IX turbo. After some cams and an intercooler i think i will be shooting for 400/400 next year.

I absolutly LOVE e-85!! Even if every gas station doesnt have it, just plan accordingly and u will be alright, the extra hp gain from the 105 octain is the best part!!! And it dir cheap to fill my car with it.. And if u babie it u actully get pretty decent gas milage..

[devlish]

blaqk... be nice to my car. cheap shots at the car is rude, it cannot defend itself. i was very kind when driving your car, now take back what you said about Lexi... or i'll need to take your car for another quick spin next time i see you... and don't be surprised if it does end up on fire in a ditch... my legs work fine, i'll walk back.

[VPT]

I ordered my wheels saturday when I got home from the dyno!


http://tijil.org/pink_bear.jpg

[BLAQK]

Dearest Lexi,

My deepest appologies about my previous comment. I had no idea your owner would take it so personally, he's kind of a baby about these things. My owner is a pretty decent guy and he is strikingly good looking. Had I known you wouldn't have been able to defend yourself I would not have made that snide remark. I hope there are no issues between us in the future, I think we could have some sweet lookin babies together. If you would like to get together and take some "pictures" together let me know. Till then take it easy and stay straight.

Peace,

BLAQK

[BLAQK]

FUCK YEAH i love the ronal teddys

[Extremedsm]

blaqk... be nice to my car. cheap shots at the car is rude, it cannot defend itself. i was very kind when driving your car, now take back what you said about Lexi... or i'll need to take your car for another quick spin next time i see you... and don't be surprised if it does end up on fire in a ditch... my legs work fine, i'll walk back.


Lexi is a fuxing beiotch!!! What did my evo do to deserve getting its windsheild broken?

[BLAQK]

I heard about that, thats balls man.

[Extremedsm]

I heard about that, thats balls man.

Yup, paybacks a bitch!!!

[BLAQK]

Lexi in a week... "how did a brick get kicked up by your tires Extreme"

[Deadly_Evolution]

Lexi is a fuxing beiotch!!! What did my evo do to deserve getting its windsheild broken?

What happened?

[DontStopMe]

Kurt has the magic ability to shoot rocks from his rear tires while driving and took aim at extreme. Good thing i was too slow to keep up with them.

[Posihead]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/198253308_2584a43d92.jpg

[TomKat]

Good thing i was too slow to keep up with them.

maybe you should put some E85 in your car. J/K

Still love you Britney.

[Britnay]

maybe you should put some E85 in your car. J/K

Still love you Britney.


that was a good suggestion tom!! o, and thanks atleast someone loves me...lol

[BLAQK]

I love ya too brit. Do you think we could get the bud girls together for a car/girl photo shoot?

[Getsideways]

This is a funny thread it made my afternoon

[devlish]

Do you think we could get the bud girls together for a car/girl photo shoot? maybe the first good idea this guy has ever had?? now if he would run off a tall building, it could be his 2nd great idea!

[Getsideways]

^you both should relieve the sexual tension between the two of you with each other because no-one on here wants to put up with this crap anymore ;)

[devlish]

you know you like it GSW...

[BLAQK]

gsw wants to be in on the tension i think

[Kiley]

gsw wants to be in on the tension i think

well now that's a no brainer ;)

[mrslysly]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/198253308_2584a43d92.jpg


Badgers! And mushrooms.....

[Extremedsm]

There is going to be E85 in my crap tomorrow. Just had corn for dinner.

[Tcatt]

There is going to be E85 in my crap tomorrow. Just had corn for dinner.

hey me too!!!!

[SgtRauksauff]

SCREW E85!!!! Corn should be used for the PROPER liquid by-product.... whiskey!!

--sarge

[ragdoll]

I'm not going to read through all of this, but I just wanted to say I'm happy to see Brit researched E-85... I love seeing people looking things up like that and actually understanding things better.

Kudos

[stpdk]

SCREW E85!!!! Corn should be used for the PROPER liquid by-product.... whiskey!!

--sarge

i 2nd that motion haha

[Britnay]

I'm not going to read through all of this, but I just wanted to say I'm happy to see Brit researched E-85... I love seeing people looking things up like that and actually understanding things better.

Kudos


thank you!! that was the whole point of this thread until it turned into stupid shit...

[VPT]

ceiling fan.

[BLAQK]

plastic bag

[mrslysly]

horseshoe

[Dizmm]

lamp!

[matt]

Do you think that the benefit of E85 is because it is cleaner and better for the environment? If so, then you need to think again...

"Official U.S. government federal records show a single Archer-Daniels-Midland Company corn processing plant in Clinton, Iowa produced nearly 20,000 tons of pollutants including sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and volatile organic compounds in 2004. The EPA considers an ethanol plant as a “major source” of pollution if it produces more than 100 tons of any one pollutant per year."

Im not going to c & p a wall of text, but maybe a liiiiittle bit more research needs to be done...

[matt]

Oh, and umm..... cactus

[Dizmm]

e85 is not the solution to our pollution or energy problems. Same goes for these battery hybrid BS cars. The batteries themselves produce more pollution in their life than most American made 30-ton 9Liter v8 SUV's.

[VPT]

WATER! end all

[matt]

e85 is not the solution to our pollution or energy problems. Same goes for these battery hybrid BS cars. The batteries themselves produce more pollution in their life than most American made 30-ton 9Liter v8 SUV's.

+1. Im glad Im not the only one refusing to be brainwashed by ignorance...

[mrslysly]

E85 vs gasoline per gallon has less pollutants when burned, but due to its lower BTU rating you need to burn more, which in turn means more fuel consumed to match the same BTU rating as gasoline, which leads to E85 actually producing MORE pollutants at the same achieved BTU rating.

Corn Blows! Save it for whiskey and the cows.

Plunger.

[VPT]

Corn works well for heating homes. But the e85 is a waste of farm land, tractor fuel to harvest, all that crap that dizzmzmm said and its a waste of a pump that could be better used for turbo blue.

[Deadly_Evolution]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/198253308_2584a43d92.jpg

What the badger was doing before this pic...

[Dizmm]

WATER! end all

YUP!

People have been making their own HHO kits. Plenty of energy that can be used with just H20.

[VPT]

Nuclear powered cars would be nice.

[Dizmm]

I actually made my own little HHO kit about 5 months ago. Didn’t install it on a car, but its pretty simple how it works. Basically it just electrolyzes the water and splits the Hydrogen and Oxygen which gets pumped into your intake on the car.

http://hho-gas.org

[mrslysly]

Thats the simplified version. Finding the right catalyst so you get enough of a reaction is tricking. Trying to electrolyze pure H2O takes extreme amounts of power to generate enough H2 and O2. We built one at work to put on my boss' yukon. Def was a learning experience.

Then you have electrode and anode metals and placement (really critical so you don't have the split H2 and O recombining while still in the mix). Seperator tanks so you don't have boiled over liquid right into the intake. Tricking new PCMs to not dump extra fuel in because the O2 sensors flip out.

[highline_motorsports]

For inviromental reason's yeah it may suck but for the import scene which we are all in it ROCKS!!

Cost way less than 93 oct.
so instead of paying $5+ per gallon for turbo blue, pay under $2 per gallon for e-85.

Its here why not take advantage of it..

[VPT]

Because it doesn't smell nice.

[Dizmm]

Thats the simplified version. Finding the right catalyst so you get enough of a reaction is tricking. Trying to electrolyze pure H2O takes extreme amounts of power to generate enough H2 and O2. We built one at work to put on my boss' yukon. Def was a learning experience.

Then you have electrode and anode metals and placement (really critical so you don't have the split H2 and O recombining while still in the mix). Seperator tanks so you don't have boiled over liquid right into the intake. Tricking new PCMs to not dump extra fuel in because the O2 sensors flip out.

yup, you would need some method of tuning (ECUflash or the like) to take away half the fuel. It could be done, but doubtful it would really take off as who would be able to make all this profit that they are currently making on public transportation.

[highline_motorsports]

Because it doesn't smell nice.

yeah when u change injectors it doesnt smell good. But the whole way to the dells everyone behind me siad they didnt notice a difference..

[Dizmm]

yeah when u change injectors it doesnt smell good. But the whole way to the dells everyone behind me siad they didnt notice a difference..

until you put your foot down!


Does the e85 cause more wear on the fuel lines, fuel pump seals, and all that crap? I heard it did, or at least it used to. Humm...

[EVILUTION]

I don't think there is an issue with seals. The negatives are its a bitch to start in the winter. Its hard to tell when you've gone too far on timing (you normally figure it out when the bearings die), the blend changes from station to station and season to season, there is a possible bore wash concern (requires more frequent oil changes), and its alot thirstier.

In addition you should have a wideband, fuel pump, and bigger injectors.

[highline_motorsports]

I don't think there is an issue with seals. The negatives are its a bitch to start in the winter. Its hard to tell when you've gone too far on timing (you normally figure it out when the bearings die), the blend changes from station to station and season to season, there is a possible bore wash concern (requires more frequent oil changes), and its alot thirstier.

In addition you should have a wideband, fuel pump, and bigger injectors.



The wideband will be next most likely..

And i have heard rumors about the seals but yet to find a person that actually had something happen to thier seals..

Yes it is a bitch to start in the cold.

Bore wash just like the seals heard stuff but yet to see anything back it up.. I am due for a oil change right now so i will let u know what it looks like in 2k miles and at the time of the oil change. Unless it is really bad at 2k miles, then i will just change it then.

[krazyk]

And i have heard rumors about the seals but yet to find a person that actually had something happen to thier seals..

.


you should talk to any small engine machine shop or atv repair place.. ethynol in the gas is a killer on them motors.. atvs and snowmobiles come in all the time with problems do to ethynol, even the manufacturers will tell you not to run ethynol because of the problems.. not with only wearing on the seals but the ethyl in the gas converting back to water after a short peroid of time because people dont use them as much as they should to burn the gas out and replace

[highline_motorsports]

you should talk to any small engine machine shop or atv repair place.. ethynol in the gas is a killer on them motors.. atvs and snowmobiles come in all the time with problems do to ethynol, even the manufacturers will tell you not to run ethynol because of the problems.. not with only wearing on the seals but the ethyl in the gas converting back to water after a short peroid of time because people dont use them as much as they should to burn the gas out and replace

Exactly, SMALL ENGINES.. Esp 2 cycle engines..

[krazyk]

Exactly, SMALL ENGINES.. Esp 2 cycle engines..

yeah.. just saying if they can cause alot of havoc on them they sure can do the same to the motor in your cars over time ;)..

[Getsideways]

A guy on evom tested all the fuel parts on an evo in a jug filled with e-85 none of them corroded at all ,,, other cars on the other hand have issues with it it especially doesnt like rubber i understand dries it out and cracks it

[austinj06]

My neighbor runs his Saturn Ion on water and claims to get 48mpg with it. Its funny to watch him fill the tanks in his trunk using his garden hose.

[VPT]

Bore wash is misleading a bit. Yes it can dry out the rings and cause scoring but the bigger problem if your dumping that much fuel is thinning out the oil and washing out the crank bearings under load.

But so long as you change your oil in short intervals that should never be a problem.


I however don't think all the work to run e85 is worth the reward. I would rather just tune the car to pump gas and call it a day. No need to look for special gas, worry about frequent oil changes, worry about bore/bearing washout, worry about seals or O-rings, etc.

Just pull up to any gas station and dump the high test stuff in and go. Better gas mileage and no worries.

[devlish]

^ 100% agreed. i like a setup that can remain the same once it's tuned. no cold start issues. if you wanna push it hard at the track, splash some race gas in it, and tune it at the track, then go back to your street tune and fill up at any station. and not worry about all the little stuff. but hey, that's just me.

[Hoot]

Tuning for pump gas is so typical though. As you surely have heard, nothing great has been achieved by taking the easy way.

[Deadly_Evolution]

Same here.. the ability to switch between a pump and race gas tune at the flip of a switch is the only way to go.

[Dizmm]

Same here.. the ability to switch between a pump and race gas tune at the flip of a switch is the only way to go.

I think it would be cool to see someone have 2 gas tanks, one for pump gas and the other for race gas.

[highline_motorsports]

I dont feel like spending a extra 4 doooolerrrs a gal on turbo blue when i could do the same thing with e-85 on the switch. And u think e-85 is hard to find the closest place for turbo blue is in rapids!! We have 2 stations in marshfild that carry e-85..

[Dizmm]

I keep contemplating on running water/alky/meth

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/images/customers/1967_nova_6.jpg

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/images/stage2_methanol_large.jpg

$570 for this kit, its the AIS Stage 2 Digital Progressive Trunk Mount kit.

Edit, I'm starting a new thread on water/alky/meth injection as some good conversations have been brought up lately.

[Deadly_Evolution]

^Personally if I were looking into a W/I kit I think I would highly look in to the Aquamist set ups. I've been following their products for years Richard L. is there engineer/tech and is by far the most knowledgeable person I've ever came across for auto based W/I info and research. The results there were getting could not be duplicated by ANY other W/I system on the market in reguards to the SRT community.

[Dizmm]

i'd only buy from AIS like the pics above. Their pumps will take 100% meth, the trunk tank design is perfect for when the fluid levels become low, and their progressive controllers are completely digital and tunable.

As for dyno numbers when comparing kits, that’s more based on the tuner than the meth/alky kit itself.

[Deadly_Evolution]

i'd only buy from AIS like the pics above. Their pumps will take 100% meth, the trunk tank design is perfect for when the fluid levels become low, and their progressive controllers are completely digital and tunable.

As for dyno numbers when comparing kits, that’s more based on the tuner than the meth/alky kit itself.



The aqua mist has all that and more actually. As for dyno numbers.. not what I'm basing my info on. Degrees of timing, knock, ability to in real world hold HOM on 93 pump and Alkly mix are what I base my info on. Dyno numbers are only secondary back up.

[Dizmm]

^ Post up some numbers and hard data. But not in this thread,...

[Deadly_Evolution]

Ok I'll see if I can dig up the info.. it's been a few years.

[VPT]

aquamist is the way to go.

[TheSolMan]

methane

[matt]

I wish I could power the Ranger on farts. Man Id be set.


What? I need to drive down to Madison? Someone get me a burrito...

[BLAQK]

^^^ no need anymore motherfucking Qdoba's in Wausau mang

I know thats not exactly what u were saying but it reminded me

[matt]

Hell yeah theres a Qdoba in Wausau. Jugles and me went there last week. Lets go sometime

[BLAQK]

i'm not scared, let's do it

[Extremedsm]

"show me your tittys" HAHAH... i'm still laughing from my poor man voice this weekend. next year i'll have something to drive, jesse and i already decided that we're going to find me an evo that all the tax payers can buy for us:) i woulda ran against her in the "e85 evo" that the tax payers bought for us but i woulda wiped her out lol... it wouldn't of even been a fair race since shit gets handed to us for free.

I think we need to bring this thread back from the dead!!! I fixed your post for ya.

[Kiley]

bored frank? haha

[devlish]

omg. wow.

[Extremedsm]

bored frank? haha

A little...

[TheSolMan]

yes!!

[EVILUTION]

I don't get it. What is all the excitement about?

[devlish]

^ serious?

[TheSolMan]

read the whole thread

[DSM Girl]

Or you could read the www.wi-dsm.com Wanted Big 16g thread. That thread explains a lot about what kind of a person some people are.

[TheSolMan]

wow

[VPT]

Or you could read the www.wi-dsm.com Wanted Big 16g thread. That thread explains a lot about what kind of a person some people are.



Direct link: http://www.wi-dsm.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1195

[VPT]

Where is that guy from anyhow? Someone should mention VPT can build him an exhaust.

[EVILUTION]

I can't believe this is all over a 10 year old used dsm turbo.... or more specifically the shipping for said turbo. But I can understand where one might get a bit pissed off.

[highline_motorsports]

wi-dsm thread is updated!!!

[Extremedsm]

Yes it is!!!

[BLAQK]

is there any way to move a thread from the wi-dsm forum to our "complete dead end" section lol. Very entertaining read though. Might have to join the Eau Claire forum just to "get it" all.

[krazyk]

I can't believe this is all over a 10 year old used dsm turbo.... or more specifically the shipping for said turbo. But I can understand where one might get a bit pissed off.

correction.. it was all over the cost of shipping LOL

[matt]

I pay taxs myself unlike you since u dont have a job!! So the little i get from the state for formula im pretty sure I pay for it in the end!! So no they are not paying for my kid. Maybe someone els that has alot of kids and is on a complete wick program, we are paying for their kids. And taxs dont just go to kids, it goes tward roads and briges and schools so u should be paying us to drive on our roads!! And I would say for schooling to but u dont take care of your child so that dont count i guess!! And for the bolts go WOW 5 minutes with a torch and it woulod be just like urs!!! And if you dont know how to do something "welding" the ony way u learn is to practice. That is y i do all my own and my certified welder employee does all the customers work.

Ow. that hurt my brain.

[DSM Girl]

You really shouldn't have posted that in here Matt.

[Wolf///M3]

i think we've reached the dead end of this dead end section with this thread

[VPT]

Certified welder is a very very loosely used term. To be "certified" can mean you ore only certified to weld one position with one welder. IE Welding a mild steel flat but joint on a table with a wire feed welder.

Or it could mean you are certified for over 100 different positions, metals, and welders. Could even mean you are a certified aquatic welder that welds under water in a scuba suit. Those guys can roll in 7 digit payrolls every year.

[highline_motorsports]

Eveyone one please just stop posting in this thread, Frank and I both said childish things and I feel bad about it I can't speak for him. But there is no need to keep this going!!

I have other things to worrie about instead of argueing about this stuff that shouldnt be argued about!!

Thank you and please respect my request!!


THE END!!!

[VPT]

But there is no end in the dead end section.

[EVILUTION]

The end is near!

[TheSolMan]

didn't we pass the end a while ago?

[Posihead]

Keep it going, funny stuff!

[EVILUTION]

When you die you turn to dirt......

This is how I feel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=PlayList&p=32632A2A1A3B4F15&index=0

[VPT]

No you don't, you sit in a cement coffin for many many years. You need worms to be able to turn to dirt.

[Kiley]

dont worry vpt i'll buy some worms from you when i bury evil...

[VPT]

You can have leech's for him.

[Hoot]

Evil will never die. When he hits 60 the aging process will reverse itself until he gets back to 20, then again and again back and forth until the end of time.

[VPT]

He is already old. He doesn't like working on his own car anymore, he complains about getting dirty, he is looking to buy a vette. Won't be long he will be racing TK down the hallways at the pinewood old age home.

[EVILUTION]

.... and I'll still be faster than you in a car, on foot, or even in a wheelchair!

[Kiley]

i won't put him in a home! shoot i'm so young i'll be taking care of him for years to come haha

[VPT]

.... and I'll still be faster than you in a car, on foot, or even in a wheelchair!

And faster to the grave.

[EVILUTION]

We'll see about that!

[VPT]

Your gonna die in a firey car crash, Imma live forever.

[Kiley]

you're probably right... you'd have to leave your house to die in a fiery crash...

[VPT]

Bump!

[EVILUTION]

The E85 EVO is long gone. This thread is at the dead end!

[VPT]

This thread always has been in the dead end section.

[Posihead]

The smell of E-85 makes my hungry

[Dizmm]

I'm starving!!!

[VPT]

Did anyone go to E-85 on the curb?

[devlish]

^ i did. it was wonderful as always

[Extremedsm]

My E85 is not growing so well in the garden.

[mrslysly]

You should talk to my dad, his corn is nearly 9 ft tall. Just like last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before.

Heh, new meaning to fart can muffler. Methane.

[VPT]

I didn't even bother planting any E85 this year.

[Extremedsm]

No E85 for you!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/517/dsc01881czn.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/dsc01881czn.jpg/)http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/dsc01881czn.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img13/dsc01881czn.jpg/1/)

[Posihead]

Holy DSM Fail pic! WOW

[stpdk]

i had some free blue top e-85 for lunch haha. that actually sounds like high performance shit yo

[VPT]

No E85 for you!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/517/dsc01881czn.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/dsc01881czn.jpg/)http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/dsc01881czn.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img13/dsc01881czn.jpg/1/)



lol, is that the new way to adjust your fuel trim on a dsm?

[Getsideways]

Thats how you make more power on a dsm ,, leaner=more power right ...
Frank your an idiot if you did that were you tired or something

[Extremedsm]

Thats how you make more power on a dsm ,, leaner=more power right ...
Frank your an idiot if you did that were you tired or something

I started parting that car out yesterday and I found that. From my understanding, the car would not run. I still can not figure out why.

[VPT]

http://www.ricesigns.com/real_pictures/bump_signs.jpg

[TheSolMan]

really?

[highline_motorsports]

The E85 EVO is long gone. This thread is at the dead end!

I miss that car!!! Car was wicked for a lil bit of corn and some injectors!!

[SPSRA]

certified for over 100 different positions

lol

[VPT]

lol



Pro fucker!

[BLAQK]

i'm glad this thread has been revived

[Jettaman]

Here ya go make your own e85...

http://wausau.craigslist.org/for/1385715050.html

[VPT]

Awesome! Who wants to make some shine in their basement?

[VPT]

Bump! LOL

[devlish]

^ speaking of moonshine, i have some real shine at my house from a trucker that makes runs down that way... if anyone wants to try a sip, there is about 2oz of it... i'm scairt to try it. just sniffing it too much will get you buzzed!!!! no joke. it's the real deal. my employees husband drinks it over ice. wow!!! damm.

[VPT]

I'd try some!

[devlish]

give me a call sometime, we'll do a shot together. a few people have smelled it, but no one tried it yet. i'm NOT doing a shot of that alone. ha

[VPT]

Sure! We'll slam one back before we drive to TT!

[Draven8795]

^ speaking of moonshine, i have some real shine at my house from a trucker that makes runs down that way... if anyone wants to try a sip, there is about 2oz of it... i'm scairt to try it. just sniffing it too much will get you buzzed!!!! no joke. it's the real deal. my employees husband drinks it over ice. wow!!! damm.


If your scared just go get some everclear. Much safer than some backyard stuff.

[devlish]

everclear is about 1/2 what this stuff is.

i've had everclear before.

[Draven8795]

everclear is about 1/2 what this stuff is.

i've had everclear before.


Get the good stuff and its close plus you won't go blind haha.

[matt]

everclear is about 1/2 what this stuff is.

i've had everclear before.

Even the less potent version of Everclear is 75.5% alcohol. Are you stating that this magic liquid has 156% alcohol?


Either way, sounds delicious.