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I know the whole forum is kind of like this but yeah. Who else thinks holidays are a waste of time? There should be like your birthday and xmas and thats it!
WTF is easter and what do bunnies have to do with any of it?
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-12-2009, 09:55 AM
Not a fan of holidays either.
Deadly_Evolution
04-12-2009, 10:31 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20090409/i/r125911537.jpg?x=285&y=345&q=85&sig=AgglgcZR5qyYuElns1YuhQ--
Easter Bunny does seem to come out of left field, there may be some logic to its existence. Hundreds of years ago, "many pagan cultures held spring festivals." One such festival was devoted to "Eostre, the goddess of dawn," and this Eostre was "linked to the hare and the egg, both symbols of fertility."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDtmFdfBgxU
austinj06
04-12-2009, 10:33 AM
LOL, that video never gets old!
Extremedsm
04-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Holidays make people spend $$$. I don't wanna!
Wolf///M3
04-12-2009, 03:08 PM
heres where all the money went from the gov grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2MFvOC94A
EVILUTION
04-12-2009, 05:11 PM
I like holidays especially when they are on weekdays.
EVILUTION
04-12-2009, 05:18 PM
I'm sick of my window tint.... its too fucking dark.
Wolf///M3
04-12-2009, 06:33 PM
^^^^i kinda feel ya there... i had trouble backing out of a driveway the other night i had to roll down the window but it looks too good to take off....
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-12-2009, 08:36 PM
i love my car.
devlish
04-12-2009, 09:33 PM
I'm sick of my window tint.... its too fucking dark. i know a guy... that can help!!!
i have a good way to take it off as well, without scraping like crazy on the rear defroster.... and no oven cleaner either. i know you love that shit though...
EVILUTION
04-12-2009, 09:37 PM
Lemon fresh!
matthewhiggins118
04-12-2009, 09:40 PM
how dark is your tint i am looking to get mine done but just dont know how dark and wat is the best
DirtyBird
04-12-2009, 10:21 PM
I know the whole forum is kind of like this but yeah. Who else thinks holidays are a waste of time? There should be like your birthday and xmas and thats it!
WTF is easter and what do bunnies have to do with any of it?
Easter is the day that Jesus rose from the grave. Good Friday is the day he was crucified and died for our sins so that God may pass his judgement on him and not us, so that the souls of those of us that believe this may go to heaven. The easter bunny?? no freaking idea where thats from...way left field.
EVILUTION
04-12-2009, 10:28 PM
I don't know but its way too flipping dark. Can't see shit at night.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2001/tintu.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tintu.jpg)
Deadly_Evolution
04-12-2009, 10:33 PM
^^^Looks like 20% which is what I have on my EVO and I hate it also. I'm going 35% sometime soon.
TomKat
04-12-2009, 10:37 PM
I like to see where I'm going at night.
Extremedsm
04-12-2009, 10:42 PM
I like to see where I'm going at night.
Then open your damn eyes!!!
TomKat
04-12-2009, 10:49 PM
I'm too scart.
GSR_jake
04-12-2009, 10:50 PM
I waxed my car today it looks fresh
DirtyBird
04-12-2009, 10:55 PM
must be nice to have nothing more than window tint to be complaining about and waste money on. Stock, stock, stock.! ;)
Tint looks good but I also do not like driving tinted cars, can't see crap.
Supposed to be very nice all this week! Imma try and get some work done.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-13-2009, 08:18 AM
Today is a great day!
Deadly_Evolution
04-13-2009, 08:51 AM
I waxed my car today it looks fresh
I need to wax my car, buff out a few scratches.
devlish
04-13-2009, 08:33 PM
yup, Evil & Deadly Evo have 20% all around.
Tint is great for heat and glare, so if you like... go 50% all around. still block outs same amount of heat/uv, and glare... just not physically as dark. i think GSW will be getting some 50% tint very soon if i'm not mistaken!
Getsideways
04-13-2009, 08:35 PM
Pretty sure i will ,,, i really dont like driving at night with that dark crap on there but having none at all looks kinda odd
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 08:37 PM
yeah i am going to get mine tinted who does it and how much?
Also what you guys think bout my avatar
Getsideways
04-13-2009, 08:39 PM
Devlish does it for a bottle of 151
TomKat
04-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Also what you guys think bout my avatar
What's the story behind it?
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 08:47 PM
What's the story behind it?
No story its my girlfriends dads car he is about the only cop i met that liked it lol
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Devlish does it for a bottle of 151
reallly a bottle of 151 thats it
devlish
04-13-2009, 08:58 PM
well. almost. usually i prefer something like Captain and 2liters of coke. throw a lime in the mix for the hell of it.
PM me with your vehicle info, and i'll fill you in on pricing. thanks
benben84
04-13-2009, 09:01 PM
Tattoo and Cherry Coke are where it's at!! mixed 50/50!!
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Noway a nice ice cold Busch Light on a hot summer day. its the drink of gods
EVILUTION
04-13-2009, 09:18 PM
I would like my windows to be even lighter than stock .... can you do that? It would be cool to turn off the headlights roll up the windows and have night vision.
As seen in this flick at 2:45:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiqEZg3jQJo
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 09:26 PM
lol crazy jackie lol infared is the shit
EVILUTION
04-13-2009, 09:33 PM
Because that clip was a big shitty .... here's a spin off for VPT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFB6FfaNQ40
matthewhiggins118
04-13-2009, 09:36 PM
well. almost. usually i prefer something like Captain and 2liters of coke. throw a lime in the mix for the hell of it.
PM me with your vehicle info, and i'll fill you in on pricing. thanks
PM sent
Because that clip was a big shitty .... here's a spin off for VPT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFB6FfaNQ40
I love ghinis!
EVILUTION
04-13-2009, 09:47 PM
^ Have you ever researched what the older ones sell for or how much of a pain in the ass they are to maintain? It would be fun to have a classic countach!
Or not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtQPjgzV1kA
This is about as cheap as they get: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lamborghini-Diablo-VT-Roadster-1997-Lamborghini-Diablo-VT-Roadster-Canadian-car_W0QQitemZ230335940996QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Car s_Trucks?hash=item230335940996&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1308
EVILUTION
04-13-2009, 10:04 PM
^ I'll pass! Might as well get a body kit for a probe!
They sound almost the same.... almost...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Jeff-Jeske----Black-Hawk-Farms----96-Ford-Probe-GT_83236.htm
Some vette with exhaust just got gas at shell.
1gnR/T
04-13-2009, 10:32 PM
If it's the shell by you why would they put 91 octane piss water in there car? I saw a black STi doing the same thing :( 93 octane no ethanol for me.
Lots of loud cars get gas at this shell. Lots of evos too!
1gnR/T
04-13-2009, 10:39 PM
Weird.
On friday and saturday nights in the summer there will be 3 - 4 evos in a row come and get gas at the shell.
1gnR/T
04-13-2009, 10:46 PM
Can't they read the pump? it say's 91 octane and up to 10% ethanol added. Hell even a stock Dohc neon is suppose to have at least 92 octane fuel.
I'm bored, leaving to go cruise around.
3ftcivic
04-13-2009, 10:49 PM
If it's the shell by you why would they put 91 octane piss water in there car? I saw a black STi doing the same thing :( 93 octane no ethanol for me.
Where do you get 93 octane with no ethanol in point?
Pointdsm
04-13-2009, 11:29 PM
10/39 bp.
Selltech
04-13-2009, 11:45 PM
No story its my girlfriends dads car he is about the only cop i met that liked it lol
you should see if he wants to race off duty. Id blow his doors off! lol
1gnR/T
04-14-2009, 12:00 AM
Shell, BP, and Exxon all use to have 93 octane w/out ethanol.
But now i see those dumb little up to 10% ethanol sticker's all over except for the BP on hwy 10/39 but it's only 91 octane now but shouldn't have ethanol in it? or at least there isn't a sticker above it, what i've been doing ever since I got my tune on the neon was putting in 91 octane from BP and then splashing in some Turbo Blue or Torco that I get from Granton, WI at the BP.
The 91 at shell has no corn crap.
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 08:00 AM
last year when i was using shell next to vpt they had e-85 + 93 best of both worlds,, not anymore jerks,,,,
ragdoll
04-14-2009, 08:05 AM
I use 110 octane for my Corolla. Bumps it up to 107hp.
devlish
04-14-2009, 08:20 AM
i thought that shell had 92 or 93? doesn't the bluetop shell have 93?
it's getting harder to find around here. The STORE on 4th and Division still has 93, that's usually where i go. BPs used to have it, but not most are cutting down to 91 as well WTF??
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 08:31 AM
Bluetop shell-93
Belts gas station-93
All kwik trips-dont bother
vpt shell-91 last time i was there
hwy 54 in plover mobil and bp-93
Joels shop hwy 10 the store-93 mobil dont remember
Mobil across from partners on 66-92
Shell?? or is it the store,? behind walmart 93+e-85
Fixed
And gas is 2.06 right now.
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 08:37 AM
Im going to start a gas thread
devlish
04-14-2009, 08:41 AM
what preemy gas?
i honked this morning when i left CM, saw your bike for sale too. how come you don't have it listed on here?
Because everyone on here drives past my place all the time, no need to list it. lol
Talking about radio stations does anyone even listen to 104.9 anymore? WTF is there deal? when they were rock and in competition with 104.1 that was all I listened too, than they went gay.
devlish
04-14-2009, 08:48 AM
wow. this forum is jumpin' this morning!!!
lots of activity
i hit up 104.1 once in a while
I do too, but it is normally some song I don't get excited about so I go back to 103.3 right away. lol
matthewhiggins118
04-14-2009, 09:01 AM
i will agree this forum is bumping this morning doesnt anyone have anything to do lol
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 09:17 AM
I'm watching kids.
Same here singular form though
1gnR/T
04-14-2009, 09:17 AM
Bluetop shell / 93+ethanol
Belts gas station-93 / Exxon 93+ethanol
All kwik trips-dont bother / x2 that shit will fry your 02's.
vpt shell-91 last time i was there -x2
hwy 54 in plover mobil and bp-93 / mobil is 92+ethanol pretty sure so is bp.
Joels shop hwy 10 the store-93 - mobil dont remember / Mobil 92+ethanol
Mobil across from partners on 66-92 / I think that's a bp 92+ethanol
Shell?? or is it the store,? behind walmart 93+e-85 / the store, and they go thru american fuel's which is sucky.
added some stuff to gsw's list^
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-14-2009, 09:25 AM
This guy is out of control.
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/IMG_8718.jpg
1gnR/T
04-14-2009, 09:31 AM
x007??
ragdoll
04-14-2009, 09:35 AM
Hey, I took a similar picture in Mosinee at the bridge construction
http://upload.pbase.com/image/111303612/original.jpg
^ that digger looks like a POS.
1gnR/T
04-14-2009, 09:38 AM
I bet that guy thought he was bad arse, had a cameraman and everything snapping pic's of him that day.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-14-2009, 09:38 AM
I took that pic from inside our shop here. This guy almost took us out a few times.
I bet that would be a fun job for awhile.
ragdoll
04-14-2009, 05:30 PM
I bet that would be a fun job for awhile.
Awhile = 20 minutes :)
EVILUTION
04-14-2009, 05:37 PM
My dad was a mechanical engineer and worked for Case. He had access to all the big ass endloaders. One weekend we went out to their testing grounds and I got to move large piles of dirt and rocks. Also got to drive it through the testing grounds. What a blast. Those things have everything from kick ass stereo's to AC. I would have no problem doing that job for a living.
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 05:39 PM
They get paid very well too.
Selltech
04-14-2009, 06:16 PM
being that this is for random stuff, I would just like to take the time and say that I was just bitten by the state blood sucking bird. First one of the season. That is all, carry on...
Posihead
04-14-2009, 09:39 PM
being that this is for random stuff, I would just like to take the time and say that I was just bitten by the state blood sucking bird. First one of the season. That is all, carry on...
SWEET! I got bit a few times by a 100+lb Pit Bull a few days ago! What the heck is the state blood sucking bird?
On another note, I don't like shingling roofs...
Posihead
04-14-2009, 09:44 PM
Talking about radio stations does anyone even listen to 104.9 anymore? WTF is there deal? when they were rock and in competition with 104.1 that was all I listened too, than they went gay.
VPT, two words why 104.9 went to shit and why 104.1 sucks now! NICK SOMMERS...
Selltech
04-14-2009, 10:10 PM
SWEET! I got bit a few times by a 100+lb Pit Bull a few days ago! What the heck is the state blood sucking bird?
On another note, I don't like shingling roofs...
The blood sucking bird is a mosquito. "Bit a few times" Wouldnt you have stopped the bighting after the first chomp?
Posihead
04-14-2009, 10:25 PM
Hey Selltech, get in a fight with a Pit and get back to me on that, lol
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 10:45 PM
SWEET! I got bit a few times by a 100+lb Pit Bull a few days ago! What the heck is the state blood sucking bird?
Why didnt it finish the job?
Posihead
04-14-2009, 10:50 PM
Why didnt it finish the job?
Haha, thanks GSW! I smacked him in the mouth and ran fast, he was tied up, so he could only chase me so far...
Getsideways
04-14-2009, 11:03 PM
pitbulls look cool but some have nasty temperments
Selltech
04-14-2009, 11:38 PM
Haha, thanks GSW! I smacked him in the mouth and ran fast, he was tied up, so he could only chase me so far...
I can just see it... Posihead egging on the pit bull where he thinks the chain should end, only to find out that there is an exta 3ft of chain that he couldn't see. All of a sudden CHOMP!
That was a little mental pic that ran through my mind
Posihead
04-15-2009, 12:23 AM
Haha Selltech, not quite! It happened at a buddies house, he has two Pits, one is a 40lb puppy and the other is the big boy... Firehazard and I were trying to untangle the two pits chains, because they were all wound around the tires of a mud truck and each-other... I was trying to get the lil one to go around the mud truck tire, when out of nowhere the big one jumped me! I have a one inch scratch on my left cheek bone, and scrapes, bruising and deep scratches on my left hip and thigh. Nothing that really bleed at all... The dog didn't know me, which is most likely why it freaked. I still love dogs and Pits though! :)
firehazard
04-15-2009, 02:40 AM
Haha Selltech, not quite! It happened at a buddies house, he has two Pits, one is a 40lb puppy and the other is the big boy... Firehazard and I were trying to untangle the two pits chains, because they were all wound around the tires of a mud truck and each-other... I was trying to get the lil one to go around the mud truck tire, when out of nowhere the big one jumped me! I have a one inch scratch on my left cheek bone, and scrapes, bruising and deep scratches on my left hip and thigh. Nothing that really bleed at all... The dog didn't know me, which is most likely why it freaked. I still love dogs and Pits though! :)
This pitbull looks intimidating and they do tend to have bad tempers. I know this dog very well and the only reason it attacked is because posihead is not well known by the dog. Me on the other hand can wrestle and play with this dog all day without so much as a nip. I was scared of him at first but after getting acquainted with him i have no fears.
When is the next cookout? I can bring the chocolate milk again.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-15-2009, 08:47 AM
When is the next cookout? I can bring the chocolate milk again.
Saturday! mmmm chocolate milk.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-15-2009, 08:55 AM
I'll do it at my place if Micasdfhahdsfhad doesn't want to do it again.
K filler because you have to type more than 3 characters in order to make a post....
GSR_jake
04-15-2009, 03:14 PM
hey did any one look at the latest grass roots motorsports, theres a little blurb about a guy who ice races a red civic hatch for fox valley sports car club, i was wondering who that was
DSM Girl
04-15-2009, 04:51 PM
We could also have the cookout at our place seeing as how Extreme has a nice new grill.
Or maybe next weekend . . .
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-15-2009, 06:56 PM
hey did any one look at the latest grass roots motorsports, theres a little blurb about a guy who ice races a red civic hatch for fox valley sports car club, i was wondering who that was
yup, he ice raced with us.
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/Ice-RallyFeb152009/IMG_6297.jpg
TomKat
04-15-2009, 08:50 PM
hey did any one look at the latest grass roots motorsports, theres a little blurb about a guy who ice races a red civic hatch for fox valley sports car club, i was wondering who that was
Cool. That's Allen Skillicorn. I'll have to pick up a copy of Grass Roots.
We could also have the cookout at our place seeing as how Extreme has a nice new grill.
Or maybe next weekend . . .
Good idea!
Extremedsm
04-15-2009, 10:10 PM
Bacon egg and cheeseburgers.
3ftcivic
04-16-2009, 01:13 AM
Cool. That's Allen Skillicorn. I'll have to pick up a copy of Grass Roots.
you should have a a monthly subscription anyways. ...
on a side note....I hate those ricers with body kits & subs that always seem to have the hottest bitches. I always wonder why HSWT's like that would be with such douches.
TomKat
04-16-2009, 06:28 AM
What is a HSWT?
In Point the hottest bitches have their own cars. You have to try and catch a ride with them.
Bacon egg and cheeseburgers.
When you having a cookout?
Extremedsm
04-16-2009, 08:13 AM
I don't know but I think I will be making burgers later today. Lots of work to do today.
When you making burgers? I'll bring some kids.
Extremedsm
04-16-2009, 08:43 AM
That will not be till later. Like supper time.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-16-2009, 08:51 AM
i made taco's on the grill last night!!!!
ragdoll
04-16-2009, 08:52 AM
Someone bring me food.
1050 Indianhead Dr
Mosinee,WI
Make it snappy.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-16-2009, 08:53 AM
Someone bring me food.
1050 Indianhead Dr
Mosinee,WI
Make it snappy.
What would you like?
That will not be till later. Like supper time.
Well that doesn't help.
DSM Girl
04-16-2009, 10:20 AM
Supper time is 5 or 6. If you bring kids, you should also bring the wife. I would like my cheeseburgers minus the egg. That just sounds disgusting!
DSM Girl
04-16-2009, 10:21 AM
What is a HSWT?
In Point the hottest bitches have their own cars. You have to try and catch a ride with them.
Exactly!
GSR_jake
04-16-2009, 10:51 AM
What is a HSWT?
In Point the hottest bitches have their own cars. You have to try and catch a ride with them.
Acronym for Hot Slut with Tits. Plural: HSWTs. Hot sluts with tits must be hot, and have sweet tits, but do NOT have to fit the strict definition of slut (but what chick doesn't?). I.E. both your everyday drunken college hottie with quality jugs that rides every pole she sees and your best friend's faithful smokin' hot girlfriend of 3 years (with high quality jugs) are HSWTs.
Chicks must be agreed upon by a 2/3 majority (of those people that matter) as HSWTs before they can be referred to as an HSWT.
(1)
Dude, we need to get the fuck out of here if there're no HSWTs.
(2)
-I think that chick over there might qualify as a HSWT, what do you think?
-Close, but no -- she's definitely a HS, but those Ts couldn't be more than a low B-cup.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hswt
Acronym comes in handy alot
zx360
04-16-2009, 10:57 AM
anyone on here drive a neon, no interior, 4 point belts?
saw the neon yesterday while i was riding my bike downtown, sounded wicked
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-16-2009, 11:35 AM
Acronym for Hot Slut with Tits. Plural: HSWTs. Hot sluts with tits must be hot, and have sweet tits, but do NOT have to fit the strict definition of slut (but what chick doesn't?). I.E. both your everyday drunken college hottie with quality jugs that rides every pole she sees and your best friend's faithful smokin' hot girlfriend of 3 years (with high quality jugs) are HSWTs.
Chicks must be agreed upon by a 2/3 majority (of those people that matter) as HSWTs before they can be referred to as an HSWT.
(1)
Dude, we need to get the fuck out of here if there're no HSWTs.
(2)
-I think that chick over there might qualify as a HSWT, what do you think?
-Close, but no -- she's definitely a HS, but those Ts couldn't be more than a low B-cup.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hswt
Acronym comes in handy alot
YES, thats awesome. Now for the hour I will be reading urban dictionary again. thanks.
1gnR/T
04-16-2009, 02:57 PM
anyone on here drive a neon, no interior, 4 point belts?
saw the neon yesterday while i was riding my bike downtown, sounded wicked
If it was a white 4 door that was Dan's car, I don't think he's a member on here though.
zx360
04-16-2009, 09:48 PM
it may have been, it was white, i didnt notice till he went by and i did a quick double take and saw the belts and lack of interior, then heard it...
1gnR/T
04-16-2009, 11:36 PM
It does sound's nice, long tube header, I believe a cat, and a cherry bomb :)
Posihead
04-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Dan's Neon is for sale for $3,000 obo, if anyone is interested, I have his cell #
zx360
04-16-2009, 11:47 PM
who all was at shopko that day? it wasnt even night, im not used to seeing people out there that early...
1gnR/T
04-16-2009, 11:52 PM
Dan's Neon is for sale for $3,000 obo, if anyone is interested, I have his cell #
lol, wish I had the money.
austinj06
04-17-2009, 12:14 AM
I was looking at some cars in Oshkosh yesturday with my dad, and found what appeared to be an SRT4. As I got closer, I found it wasnt. It was an automatic and didnt have the standard boost gauge that would be found on an SRT.
The sales man says, oh its an "SRT Designs Neon"...what ever the hell that meant. The guy says its like a special edition, kinda like an R/T. He said its the same thing as an SRT but with out the 2.4T. I told the guy he's full of shit, and said its not the same thing as an SRT just with out the motor, its a plain old neon with a bodykit on it....then I left.
...end story.
Selltech
04-17-2009, 12:37 AM
I was looking at some cars in Oshkosh yesturday with my dad, and found what appeared to be an SRT4. As I got closer, I found it wasnt. It was an automatic and didnt have the standard boost gauge that would be found on an SRT.
The sales man says, oh its an "SRT Designs Neon"...what ever the hell that meant. The guy says its like a special edition, kinda like an R/T. He said its the same thing as an SRT but with out the 2.4T. I told the guy he's full of shit, and said its not the same thing as an SRT just with out the motor, its a plain old neon with a bodykit on it....then I left.
...end story.
Dont you love salesmen! If you ask me most are total D-bags
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 12:39 AM
Maybe it was 1 of 1 ever made lol.
austinj06
04-17-2009, 12:41 AM
lol
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 12:42 AM
Dan's Neon is for sale for $3,000 obo, if anyone is interested, I have his cell #
Can you give me his number? I want to see if he will sell the strut tower bars, along with some other stuff on it.
Posihead
04-17-2009, 12:43 AM
No, lol, it's a real car they made in 2005...
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/434/474712ow6.jpg
Posihead
04-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Can you give me his number? I want to see if he will sell the strut tower bars, along with some other stuff on it.
PM'ed
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Thanks
austinj06
04-17-2009, 12:54 AM
No, lol, it's a real car they made in 2005...
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/434/474712ow6.jpg
Ha! Thats why it says 2000 on the picture, lol.
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 01:00 AM
You know what I think it is a real car now that I saw that pic. There is a blue 2g neon that looks like that around town, I really have no idea as I don't pay any attention to 2gen. neon's or SRT's.
I copied and pasted this, from a Dodge dealership salesman on SRTforums. http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f10/2005-srt-design-neon-77750/
We just got our new car catalogs here at the dealership today and right on the front cover is a 2005 Neon with the "SRT Design Appearance Package." It has a similar front fascia, the power bulge hood, high rise spoiler and dual exhaust like a RT. Sounds like the SRT-4 is going to get a slow reputation when these start hitting the streets.
austinj06
04-17-2009, 01:51 AM
You know what I think it is a real car now that I saw that pic. There is a blue 2g neon that looks like that around town, I really have no idea as I don't pay any attention to 2gen. neon's or SRT's.
I copied and pasted this, from a Dodge dealership salesman on SRTforums. http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f10/2005-srt-design-neon-77750/
We just got our new car catalogs here at the dealership today and right on the front cover is a 2005 Neon with the "SRT Design Appearance Package." It has a similar front fascia, the power bulge hood, high rise spoiler and dual exhaust like a RT. Sounds like the SRT-4 is going to get a slow reputation when these start hitting the streets.
Motherfucker! I guess I owe that guy an appology. The neon did look similer to the one posihead posted. Boy do I feel like an assclown now.....oh well, Ill never see that guy again.
austinj06
04-17-2009, 01:57 AM
Yep...it was an option on the SXT Neon in 2005.
2005 Dodge Neon - Feature Highlights
1. SXT has added SRT Design as an option
2. New colors: Orange Blast Pearl Coat and Mineral Gray Metallic Clear Coat
3. "Kicker" sound system-Eight speakers, 208 watts, including 22 mm tweeters, 6.5-inch front door mid-range speakers, 6 x 9-inch with 1-inch dome tweeter in rear deck, 100-watt 10-inch subwoofer in the trunk
4. 120-amp alternator
http://www.new-cars.com/2005/2005-dodge-neon.html
Learn something new everyday...
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 03:53 AM
Dan's Neon is for sale for $3,000 obo, if anyone is interested, I have his cell #
Here is a list of mods on it.
15" Rota slipstreams(gunmetal),
New Falken tires,
New DEPO headlights ,
German Export turnsignals ,
Cross drilled and Slotted rotors W/ EBC pads,
Energy suspension bushing in entire car
Mopar Highrate springs in front ,
X-Highrate springs in rear ,
Strut Tower bars ,
Solid motor/trans mounts
Booger bobble strut,
3.94 trans out of an R/T,
Phantom Grip LSD,
Borgwarner stage 2 clutch
Maddog Short throw shifter W/ Rage bushings ,
60mm throttlebody ,
Iceman intake W/ K&N filter ,
TTI Race UDP,
Mopar performance ECU,
Mopar EGR blockoff,
MSD Coil W/ 8.5mm Magnacore wires,
Blackdog longtube header 2.5" collector ,
New 1/2 size radiator ,
2.5" Exhaust W/ Flowmaster muffler ,
Corbeau race seats W/ corbeau harnesses ,
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp171/1gnR-T/l_cff4dc15758543aabe2f42a2afc18165.jpg
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp171/1gnR-T/l_37d503acef1a45a7b5d5c9948844aaa3.jpg
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp171/1gnR-T/l_1f6bb66a52074ce880a53fb8984fe763.jpg
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp171/1gnR-T/l_a212423048b34a12a95aa03224424d55.jpg
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp171/1gnR-T/l_2394f1dc6f3d4dfe8b8fda43b8c0b5c0.jpg
Deadly_Evolution
04-17-2009, 07:20 AM
Those "SRT Style", are a joke, hardly any were sold. For just a bit more money you could own the real deal SRT-4 which is anything but a joke on the import and domestic 4 cylinder scene. Well it's the fastest production car under $30k. Beating out other cars that are not even it's it's class the 350z, WRX, just to name a few. It destroyed all of the cars in it's class by a long shot.
Here is a very funny and very cool video review on the "cheap speed" cars of 2005. This has got to be one of the funniest and most direct reviews ever for a 4 cylinder car (#3).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8-znQYC1s
devlish
04-17-2009, 07:55 AM
the white one tried to race me last week. i had two little ones in the car at the time, so no lead-foot for me. owel. next time.
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 09:35 AM
the white one tried to race me last week. i had two little ones in the car at the time, so no lead-foot for me. owel. next time.
The white neon? Ya I raced him and won by quite a few length's, in the turns he's got me though.
The previous owner Chuck owner of Maddog short throw shifters went 14.1 with it on slicks.
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 09:37 AM
Those "SRT Style", are a joke, hardly any were sold. For just a bit more money you could own the real deal SRT-4 which is anything but a joke on the import and domestic 4 cylinder scene. Well it's the fastest production car under $30k. Beating out other cars that are not even it's it's class the 350z, WRX, just to name a few. It destroyed all of the cars in it's class by a long shot.
Here is a very funny and very cool video review on the "cheap speed" cars of 2005. This has got to be one of the funniest and most direct reviews ever for a 4 cylinder car (#3).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8-znQYC1s
I think you mean the fastest car for under $20k?
zx360
04-17-2009, 09:53 AM
yeah thats the white neon... pretty sweet
devlish
04-17-2009, 10:01 AM
The white neon? Ya I raced him and won by quite a few length's, in the turns he's got me though.
The previous owner Chuck owner of Maddog short throw shifters went 14.1 with it on slicks.
yeah, that white one pictured up there... i'm pretty sure i'd get him in the straights, and i'd love to play in the twisties as well!
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 10:05 AM
I rode with him to Madison to pick up some winter rubber, ya never again :)
Deadly_Evolution
04-17-2009, 10:05 AM
I think you mean the fastest car for under $20k?
Besides the STI and EVO, what car is faster for under 30K? And both of those cost over 30k new.
1gnR/T
04-17-2009, 10:23 AM
How much does a new S3 kit go for? add it onto the $20k SRT and you have a 12 sec. car for under $30k probably?
BTW your SRT was the shiznit.
Getsideways
04-17-2009, 08:03 PM
Besides the STI and EVO, what car is faster for under 30K? And both of those cost over 30k new.
Several evos were under 30k brand new
austinj06
04-17-2009, 09:02 PM
Several evos were under 30k brand new
Ive seen new evo x's with only 30-40 miles on them for under $30K. I found a white X at a dealer in Cali for $28,800 and it had 32 miles on it.
I think this is do to the fact that nobody wants them, and the crappy economy....if you can afford it, its the time to buy.
Posihead
04-17-2009, 09:05 PM
That's still alot of $$$ for a craptastic plastic gas pedal that likes to break off!
austinj06
04-17-2009, 09:32 PM
Has anyone ever noticed when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you? But when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window??
StephaniEvo
04-17-2009, 09:36 PM
Ooh ooh...someone blow in Posi's face and see what happens.
Posihead
04-18-2009, 12:59 AM
Ooh ooh...someone blow in Posi's face and see what happens.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2859852087_e7191e8248.jpg
StephaniEvo
04-18-2009, 06:24 AM
dude...this is the random talk about whatever thread...it can go in any direction it wants...
EVILUTION
04-18-2009, 08:19 AM
Anything going on today?
Posihead
04-18-2009, 01:33 PM
Anything going on today?
Wrenching on cars and grilling at my garage...
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-18-2009, 06:08 PM
Wrenching on cars and grilling at my garage...
hopefully wrenching on that grand am getting it ready for tomorrow.
EVILUTION
04-18-2009, 07:02 PM
I did a little wrenching on mine today as well. I put the race tires on and heat cycled them with a triple digit beat run to ShannyTown. Then when swapping back to the stockers I replaced the front rotors, and lastly I gave the beast a bath.
It was so nice out I even gave the garage floor a bubble bath.
I got the wrong bushings for my car.
Posihead
04-18-2009, 11:32 PM
Wrenching on cars and grilling at my garage...
Had 10 people over, grilled up a ton of good eats and got the car just about ready. Cya all in the AM!
Posihead
04-18-2009, 11:59 PM
Who thinks Austin ate paste when he was little?
austinj06
04-19-2009, 11:47 AM
only once
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Had 10 people over, grilled up a ton of good eats and got the car just about ready. Cya all in the AM!
riiiiiight.
That was a nice looking s2000 at the track today minus the wing.
TomKat
04-19-2009, 10:05 PM
The wing makes that car. S-2000 CR
TheSolMan
04-19-2009, 10:31 PM
there was a cr out there?
TomKat
04-19-2009, 11:53 PM
Hell yeah.
We had a Lotus Elise and a Porsche Carrera S4 also.
The wing makes that car. S-2000 CR
http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/s2000crrear.jpg
I would rip that trunk door off first thing and throw it right in the trash. Than get a nice clean setup like this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/184776819_387b3c8200.jpg
EVILUTION
04-20-2009, 07:27 AM
^ I agree. The CR wing is hideous.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 08:08 AM
the evo and sti wings are hideous....but they have function.
the evo and sti wings are hideous....but they have function.
At speeds over 70 maybe.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 10:32 AM
At speeds over 70 maybe.
you may be right, and at most tracks you do hit well over 70mph. maybe not shawano, but BHF, Gingerman, RA, all well over 70mph.
But do you hold 70 threw the corners where you need the downforce?
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 10:35 AM
But do you hold 70 threw the corners where you need the downforce?
some are some not. At RA, most turns are.
I calculated the downforce of the STi wing using the Langley Research Center FoilSim wing simulator. The results are 60 lb of downforce at 100 mph, and 140 lb of downforce at 150 mph, which is an increase of between 5% and 10% download on the rear wheels. See the post on STi Buki:
http://www.sti-buki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3011#post3011
The link to the FoilSim page is on the first page of this thread.
So you have to do 100mph to get the weight of 8 gallons of fuel. lol
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 11:14 AM
So you have to do 100mph to get the weight of 8 gallons of fuel. lol
Downforce is nothing like actual dead weight in the car.
What all info did you use. did you use the numbers from an 06 STi. your link doesnt work at all.
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 11:25 AM
VPT, you may be looking over a few things. Too bad my aero thread was deleted in the forum switch just like all the other useful threads.
Most cars naturally generate lift. Wing and diffusers are put in place to reduce lift and to create negative lift...downforce. Take off the wing and measure the total lift, then put on the wing and measure, you now have negative lift. The amount of downforce may be little, but the total difference is huge,.
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s330/Dizmm/lift.jpg
Also, I've seen tests done with just adding a lip on the sti's and the results are very good. much less lift in the front.
Try going with and without the wing at one of the big tracks and see if you notice a difference.
EVILUTION
04-20-2009, 03:22 PM
I noticed the difference on my EVO 8. Even at hwy speeds the rear end was much lighter without the big wing. Hard core drag racers remove the wing to reduce drag.
Pro autox guys claim huge wings and splitters greatly help even at parking lot speeds.
The cool thing about downforce is you don't have to worry about pulling it, stopping it, or turning it. The added weight from fuel will add stopping distance, add to accel times, and slosh around in turns. If my car was a near full time track slut I would trick it out with a shitload of areo options. They are cheap and functional.
Sadly you can't go much more aggressive than the OEM park bench before your ride is considered rice. Its a shame that cross drilled rotors get more street credit than functional lift reducing areo mods.
Pointdsm
04-20-2009, 04:44 PM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i282/PointDSM/506400387_UigSi-X2.jpg
Tcatt
04-20-2009, 04:46 PM
^^sheesh
EVILUTION
04-20-2009, 06:07 PM
It doesn't have to be loud to work.... here's one for VPT.
http://www.aprperformance.com/images/zoom/PGQAUR/viewsize/AB-922000_0020.jpg
Dizmm, (Old Account)
04-20-2009, 06:14 PM
I just orded a lip for my sti.
ragdoll
04-20-2009, 06:27 PM
Sadly you can't go much more aggressive than the OEM park bench before your ride is considered rice.
Those of us outside the Evo-Ring already consider it so. :D
EDIT: Settle down...
I just orded a lip for my sti.
For really?
Kiley
04-20-2009, 08:48 PM
Those of us outside the Evo-Ring already consider it so. :D
shoot even those of us semi "in" the Evo-Ring do too! ;)
I just orded a lip for my sti.
I just installed the lip on the crx. stock stock stock guy.
DSM Girl
04-21-2009, 08:28 AM
Besides the STI and EVO, what car is faster for under 30K? And both of those cost over 30k new.
My Eclipse and she is well under 20k!
Deadly_Evolution
04-21-2009, 08:43 AM
My Eclipse and she is well under 20k!
Stock a GSX ran a 0-60 in 6.6 and quarter in 15.5 sec. Bone stock 2004 SRT-4 runs 0-60 in 5.3 and quarter in 14.0 flat.
BTW the price ranges were for new cars.
Getsideways
04-21-2009, 10:04 AM
genesis coupe is a near match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpvqwCUzQ2A&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emotortrend%2Ecom%2Froadtes ts%2Fcoupes%2F112%5F0905%5F2010%5Fhyundai%5Fgenesi s%5Fcoupe%5F3%5F8%5Ftrack%5Ftest%2Findex%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded
EVILUTION
04-21-2009, 10:34 AM
^ really like that car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Outdoor-Car-Capsule-Cover-Honda-S2000-Civic-CRX-ACCORD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el11 16QQhashZitem250263296260QQitemZ250263296260QQptZM otorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/493/hondatataatatta.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hondatataatatta.png)
EVILUTION
04-22-2009, 12:39 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Outdoor-Car-Capsule-Cover-Honda-S2000-Civic-CRX-ACCORD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el11 16QQhashZitem250263296260QQitemZ250263296260QQptZM otorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
I bet the mice would love that.
Cheap enough for a guy such as yourself to try out and let us know how it works.
EVILUTION
04-22-2009, 08:21 PM
^ I have more garage space than cars... what would I need that for?
Look at you... your family owns the entire block what you do you need that for?
To make room in the garage for work and have the car outside for winter.
DSM Girl
04-23-2009, 08:03 AM
So I was thinking cookout/campfire sometime this weekend at our place . . . Friday or Saturday. For as warm as its suppose to be on Friday, I could throw a pool party! I would really love to have a photoshoot but I have to wait until my bumper is done and can be put back on the car.
On a side note, TC we should do our photoshoot right away this year so we can make sure it gets done!
TomKat
04-23-2009, 08:42 AM
I have to wait until my bumper is done and can be put back on the car.
What is wrong with your bumper?
April showers bring may flowers!
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/mattc119/2m3g1hi.jpg
love it
DontStopMe
04-23-2009, 12:51 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/ad-580.jpg
Pointdsm
04-23-2009, 12:59 PM
The first two were at least real!
devlish
04-23-2009, 01:15 PM
So I was thinking cookout/campfire sometime this weekend at our place . . . Friday or Saturday. For as warm as its suppose to be on Friday, I could throw a pool party! I would really love to have a photoshoot but I have to wait until my bumper is done and can be put back on the car.
On a side note, TC we should do our photoshoot right away this year so we can make sure it gets done!
crappy weather all weekend is now in the forecast..ugh
EVILUTION
04-24-2009, 03:13 PM
Stash.... where are you? I've been eagerly awaiting word that an LS6 FD is lurking around town. Has anyone even seen the fancy diff having DSM? I love that car and would like to see it at BHFs! Guy... fill a guy in... what's your story?
Selltech
04-25-2009, 12:07 PM
Who is up at 4:29 AM?
"Most users ever online was 44, 03-19-2009 at 04:29 AM."
EVILUTION
04-26-2009, 10:28 AM
I want to set GSW and EXTREME drag race. When is that gonna happen? (not next weekend as I have reserves)
TomKat
04-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Next weekend it is. LOL
Stash
04-26-2009, 12:04 PM
Stash.... where are you? I've been eagerly awaiting word that an LS6 FD is lurking around town. Has anyone even seen the fancy diff having DSM? I love that car and would like to see it at BHFs! Guy... fill a guy in... what's your story?
I thought it would be fun to "fall of the grid" for a while and leave everyone guessing.
Personal update: I was layed off for a while this winter, I got called back but I am not in my original welding position, so I am currently making 4/hr less than usual which has cut into the racing budget quite a bit.
Car update: At the end of the season last year, there where things I was really happy with and other things that I was pretty disappointed in. So the setup needed some refining. When it comes back out of the garage will heavily depend on when I get back to my welding position. If it is soon I might make it to some of the late season events.
EVILUTION
04-26-2009, 12:12 PM
Falling off the grid around here is hard to do! Sorry to hear about the position change but good to hear you are still enthusiastic about the 2G. Hope to see you out there sooner rather than later!
napa has some kind of dot4 brake fluid and other nifty german fluids.
I was driving through point last friday and saw a short race between a black IS-F and a Porsche Boxter. Happened at the last lights on Hwy 10 going east out of town up to about 65mph from a dig. IS-F by about 1.5 car lengths. First IS-F I have seen on the road and the guy was acutally driving it!! My wife did not share my enthusiasm for the event.
TSi_II
04-28-2009, 07:33 AM
I saw that same black on black IS-F not too long ago. Bad ass car.
EVILUTION
04-28-2009, 07:37 AM
There is a guy at my reserve center with a black IS-F. Present to himself for going to Iraq.
Where is all that rain they said we were going to get?
helby
04-30-2009, 02:22 PM
I need new tires....and a alignment....shit.
devlish
04-30-2009, 03:51 PM
Where is all that rain they said we were going to get?
it just poured for a few mins down here....
been raining for 30mins
WhiteEightBall
04-30-2009, 04:45 PM
I think I saw Kurts mom's murdered out 'vette yesterday. About 6:25 pm going by/pulling out of the Wheelers Dealership. Couldn't tell, went left and headed out towards the slumberland area
Dizmm
04-30-2009, 04:53 PM
That was "BLAQK's" vette.
WhiteEightBall
04-30-2009, 04:58 PM
YEA! BLAQK. At least, that's who I thought it was. I started flashing my lights. Not sure if I was noticed.
devlish
05-01-2009, 07:52 AM
maybe my mom was in the car with him??
ya just never know.
seriously... my mom in a murdered out vette?? probably not.
however, riding in my parents red '79 vette with the T-Tops off, sure. that is a possibility. not nearly as fast, but classy and classic. plus, a great year altogether!!
Posihead
05-01-2009, 04:34 PM
I REALLY want to go see Crank High Voltage! It just came out today in Point... Anyone else wanna go see it this weekend?
TheSolMan
05-01-2009, 05:18 PM
i'm pretty sure you're the only one who wants to see that
Posihead
05-01-2009, 05:30 PM
i'm pretty sure you're the only one who wants to see that
Highly doubtful...
When does F&F come out on dvd?
Posihead
05-01-2009, 05:55 PM
When does F&F come out on dvd?
I have it already, as long as your dvd player can play burnt DVD's???
DirtyBird
05-01-2009, 06:44 PM
i'm pretty sure you're the only one who wants to see that
no, i want to see it too. looks pretty badass.
Getsideways
05-01-2009, 07:27 PM
it looked horrible ,,, he grabs a power line coming off a transformer to keep his heart beating nuf said
Well if your heart stopped and you were about to die and you were standing next to your only hope would you try it?
Getsideways
05-01-2009, 08:07 PM
right but he didnt die from the 200,000 volts passing thru his body
Posihead
05-01-2009, 08:13 PM
right but he didnt die from the 200,000 volts passing thru his body
Well, that would fry a normal heart, but his is artificial... Also, it's just a movie! Just like in Fast and The Furious, I'm sure STI's can drive without drive-shafts, and cars can do wheelies on dirt while already moving...
Posihead
05-01-2009, 08:14 PM
When does F&F come out on dvd?
Want a copy?
DirtyBird
05-02-2009, 12:49 AM
Well, that would fry a normal heart, but his is artificial... Also, it's just a movie! Just like in Fast and The Furious, I'm sure STI's can drive without drive-shafts, and cars can do wheelies on dirt while already moving...
yeah, no shit. movies are meantto just be entertaining, if you dont wanna be entertained with a movie, go do something else, dayum:this_is_stupid_yo:
they're just movies, watch em or dont..why does nobody like to use their imagination anymore. so boring.
Want a copy?
Nah, I'll wait to rent it from fam vid.
yeah, no shit. movies are meantto just be entertaining, if you dont wanna be entertained with a movie, go do something else, dayum:this_is_stupid_yo:
they're just movies, watch em or dont..why does nobody like to use their imagination anymore. so boring.
Some people get tired of completely fake movies. Fake car movies piss me off.
Tcatt
05-02-2009, 08:47 AM
its only a fuckin movie
You can say that about anything.
If you are going to do something do it well and do it right!
Getsideways
05-02-2009, 01:45 PM
Well, that would fry a normal heart, but his is artificial... Also, it's just a movie! Just like in Fast and The Furious, I'm sure STI's can drive without drive-shafts, and cars can do wheelies on dirt while already moving...
yes and that movie sucked too and its not just the heart your whole body would literally fry, google that crap ,,,,haha
i guess personally i dont find things that are so unrealistic to be entertaining so i avoid them just my opinion not trying to change anyone elses
EVILUTION
05-03-2009, 12:37 PM
I went to see F&F4 last night. I didn't like it at all. I'm okay with some faked out stuff but this release was complete shit.
F&F1 is still the best of the series. I won't be going to see F&F5 in the theater I can tell you that.
Afterwards I slid into the movie Fighter. That too is a rental at best.
cashsaudio
05-03-2009, 06:01 PM
Tell you what there's probably 5% of the population that knows about cars and wouldn't affect their profit anyway. Any omg, people were clapping when the car did a wheelie to kill the guy. I was like WTF?!
EVILUTION
05-03-2009, 09:21 PM
Agreed.
devlish
05-04-2009, 08:24 AM
disagreed.
matthewhiggins118
05-04-2009, 01:00 PM
This is a B E A utiful car http://wausau.craigslist.org/cto/1152980144.html
http://wausau.craigslist.org/cto/1152780743.html
Front plate law is laaaaaame.
Tcatt
05-04-2009, 03:33 PM
there was talk of not having that law awhile ago..
does anyone on the forum have or know someone that has a red/white Infinity G35 "Skyline" with some stickers along the bottom?
turbo chick
05-04-2009, 07:43 PM
I don't know who that is but I saw that car several times last summer. That car looks awesome except for the misbadging....and the fact that it is white...yuck.
cashsaudio
05-04-2009, 07:57 PM
Front plate law is laaaaaame.
haha btw, I got busted finally the first time with my viper and I seriously thought it was my exhaust cause its so freaking loud lol. I ain't putting it on tho
Kiley
05-04-2009, 08:28 PM
does anyone on the forum have or know someone that has a red/white Infinity G35 "Skyline" with some stickers along the bottom?
gag we saw that car leaving county market last night... gag.
EVILUTION
05-04-2009, 08:43 PM
^ You know I really like the G35 ..... but I don't think people should try to make them look like a 350z. Just keep it clean and forget all the rice.
http://www.v10.pl/narzedzia/tapety/Samochody/Infiniti/Infiniti%20G35/Infiniti%20G35%20Sport%20Coupe%201600x1200_75.jpg
austinj06
05-04-2009, 08:54 PM
haha btw, I got busted finally the first time with my viper and I seriously thought it was my exhaust cause its so freaking loud lol. I ain't putting it on tho
HA, FTP!
I had 3, 5 day fix-it tickets for no front plate on the TT, in a 3 week period last summer.
So what the word on the front plate law? Was it voted on yet? When is the vote?
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