DSM questions

[3ftcivic]

well guys, first off i will admit i do not know anything about DSM's or how they work. i never look at them. anyway my friend just traded his rusty civic coupe for this 95? talon it was originaly a NA car with the 420a?. someone along the road of this cars life put on a turbo kit. i have no idea what any of the parts are or who made the kit. there are not markings on anything. my friend stopped by my jail cell (dorm) today to show me the car. here it is......keep reading.....

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as i am looking at the car i noticed the front mount is just sitting up front, nothing connected to it. weird?
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so my friend pops the hood, what a cluster f*ck. so here is what this engine bay looks like.
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what i was wondering is this car set up properly? i mean the piping from the intake manifold goes right to the turbo.that dosnt seem very effecient. i took a ride in the car and it was not fast be any means. i have been in non-tuboed talons and this felt the same. i would compare the speed of this car to a single cam civic. main question is how much better would this car run if lets say it had a working front mount, or is this turbo kit just shitty and this is how it should run.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

eeeek!

Looks like some ebay turbo kit. that thing needs some work, and to be completely honest i would not bother with it. I'd sell that car and find a nice GST/TSI/GSX or something that came stock with a turbo.

[3ftcivic]

^thats the plan, i told him to get rid of it as fast as possible. so, what did you think when you saw this. is it set up wrong? sure seems to get hot under the engine bay. :roll:

[VPT]

umm... I bet that downpipe flows like a bitch! So the turbo out pipe just goes down, makes a loop, and than goes back up and to the throttle body?

[3ftcivic]

umm... I bet that downpipe flows like a bitch! So the turbo out pipe just goes down, makes a loop, and than goes back up and to the throttle body?

yep, thats how it works. seemed odd to me.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

yep, thats how it works. seemed odd to me.

yeah, its all wrong.

[3ftcivic]

would you mind explaining?

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

would you mind explaining?

sure.

From the turbo, the I/C pipe should go into the I/C, then from the I/C to the Throttle Body. Basically the I/C is just hanging there not doing anything. even if it was all hooked up right, those turbo 420a DSM's are still slower than a stock turbo'd DSM.

[3ftcivic]

alright, thats how i thought it was supposed to work. so basicly its not worth all the trouble of hooking up the intercooler.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

alright, thats how i thought it was supposed to work. so basicly its not worth all the trouble of hooking up the intercooler.

Well, it may be hard to sell if you leave it like it is. It wouldnt cost too much to get some new I/C pipes made up for it. I'm sure a guy by the name of VPT could help ya out.

[3ftcivic]

actually, its been for sale for a day or so and he has seen more interest than all of my cars for sale put together. makes me a little mad. i will guess that the car will be gone within the week. everyone who has came to look at it has liked it so far. i still do not know why.....but whatever.

i would almost bet that the car will be sold to someone who is buying it just because it goes psshhhh and they can say there car is turboed.

i have done a lot of research today, came to the decision that the whole turboed car idea isnt as complicated as i thought. i just never looked into a boost route before, maybe its in my future 8)

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

actually, its been for sale for a day or so and he has seen more interest than all of my cars for sale put together. makes me a little mad. i will guess that the car will be gone within the week. everyone who has came to look at it has liked it so far. i still do not know why.....but whatever.

i would almost bet that the car will be sold to someone who is buying it just because it goes psshhhh and they can say there car is turboed.

i have done a lot of research today, came to the decision that the whole turboed car idea isnt as complicated as i thought. i just never looked into a boost route before, maybe its in my future 8)

well, if it sells, awesome. Anytime you turbo a car that is not built for a turbo, its gonna be slow and you'll be having problems down the road, literally. Tell him to find a nice gst/gsx or something.

[TomKat]

How about a turbo Grand Am. 8)

[3ftcivic]

your selling the grand am?

[TheSolMan]

well, if it sells, awesome. Anytime you turbo a car that is not built for a turbo, its gonna be slow and you'll be having problems down the road, literally. Tell him to find a nice gst/gsx or something.

built being the keyword--You yourself can build a motor for turbo out of one that wasn't originally built for it and it would be fast but if you just slap a turbo on and not build it then it's not going to turn out very well--not sure if that was what you were trying to say or not--just thought I'd elaborate

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

well, if it sells, awesome. Anytime you turbo a car that is not built for a turbo, its gonna be slow and you'll be having problems down the road, literally. Tell him to find a nice gst/gsx or something.

built being the keyword--You yourself can build a motor for turbo out of one that wasn't originally built for it and it would be fast but if you just slap a turbo on and not build it then it's not going to turn out very well--not sure if that was what you were trying to say or not--just thought I'd elaborate

yes, the engine must be built for the turbo, (lower compression pistons)

[3ftcivic]

car is gone, i feel bad for whoever traded there nice 93 integra for it.