Blackhawk Lapping Day April 20th

[TomKat]

Madison Sports Car Club is putting on a lapping day at Blackhawk Farms Raceway on Friday April 20th. Cost: $150. www.madisonautocross.com

The following day is a drivers school at Blackhawk Farms put on by Midwest Council. A reasonably priced school and an excellent bargain.
www.mcscc.org

[EVILUTION]

Where do I sign up?

[TomKat]

You'll have to cool you jets about signing up. This is super duper secrete advanced information.

Registration will be up at a later date.

[Pointdsm]

I'm, i'll have the talon down with me back at school then, so it would only be about a 35min. drive. I'll definatly do this before autobahn(still not sure on that one).

[Pointdsm]

Thinking of this event again, do you need to be a member of MSCC, does FVSCC have anything involved? I'm shooting for this event.

[TomKat]

FVSCC has nothing to do with this event. A membership in MSCC is required if you attend the drivers school on Saturday.

[Pointdsm]

But the lapping day friday is just a show up thing?

[TomKat]

Registration is up.

http://www.madisonsportscarclub.com/trackday/

April 20th $160.

I'll be there.

[Pointdsm]

check your pm..

[EVILUTION]

I just paid..... I know Zoey will lap me but I hope Hutch's RX8 doesn't.

Those triple challenge folks should start registering.

[TomKat]

Zoey will most likely not be there. Won't be getting the hot rods out until mid May.

This is not part of the triple challenge. Unless PDSM wants to have a special triple challenge with Evil.

[EVILUTION]

Personally I think most of the ladies and genitalmen on this forum should attend this lapping day.

1. Its cheap.
2. Its fairly close.
3. Plenty of track time.
4. More fun than you can shake a stick at.

[Big'ens]

Personally I think most of the ladies and genitalmen on this forum should attend this lapping day.



With what car? The family sedan?

[fordssuck]

Motor is still in pieces, sorry ill be a no show.

[Pointdsm]

This might not happen for me, as of right now I have an Economics exam at 9:45 that morning, the date might change depending on what we get through in class, but its not looking good.

[EVILUTION]

Motor is still in pieces, sorry ill be a no show.

Your motor is in pieces.....that is strange. PDSM not showing up is not strange.

[Pointdsm]

Why is it strange, i might be able to make it, i'm actually going to GLD the first week of april because its free week there, so i'll get a couple runs in early in the season.

[devlish]

i thought you said your car won't be done by the first week of april?? what gives??

[Pointdsm]

I said spring break, thats the last week in march first week in april(our spring break is weird with easter the next weekend).

[EVILUTION]

I think you should take your exam with a different section of the class. Then show up to BHF for the lapping day. It's worth the trouble. Devilish should bring the Omni.

[devlish]

devlish SHOULD bring the omni, but they won't let it run with no door handles or bumpers. besides, i'll be on the gulf coast beach that day. chillin', gettin some sun. sorry. (i have to catch up with the likes of you crazy vacationers!!)

[Pointdsm]

This is his only class for Econ 201, monday, wednesday and friday, already thought about that option.

[EVILUTION]

Bla bla bla have fun in class.

I can't believe out of all these registered users only a few are willing to attend a nice cheap high speed lapping day.

[devlish]

notice the name of the forum we're in.... racing and track TALK

[EVILUTION]

So true. I thought more people would want to play cat and mouse with the stock EVO.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

So true. I thought more people would want to play cat and mouse with the stock EVO.

What fun would that be, STOCK??? :P

[EVILUTION]

Well I've purchased some coil overs for it and I still have my computer, cams, and cam gears in the car.
Its a little faster than stock but still much slow than it was. I was hoping some DSMs would enjoy a chance to slay the EVO on the track.

[Pointdsm]

I'm trying man, just turned down a different event that weekend.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Well I've purchased some coil overs for it and I still have my computer, cams, and cam gears in the car.
Its a little faster than stock but still much slow than it was. I was hoping some DSMs would enjoy a chance to slay the EVO on the track.

I would like to play a little cat/mouse with a slightly modded evo.

[EVILUTION]

Well sign up for the advanced group and you'll get your chance! Should be VERY close.

[Pointdsm]

If i sign up, what group should I be in? You guys would know much better than me on that subject.

[EVILUTION]

Intermediate group unless you have alot of faith in your brakes!

[EVILUTION]

Found this on the EVO forum....

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=247684

[Pointdsm]

I'm not going anymore:(, maybe the june event though.

[EVILUTION]

GRRRrrrrrr

[Pointdsm]

I'm low on cash, i'm going to sell a few things to make up money, I was fine up until i realized I have a prom to go to the weekend after, tux + dinner + a gay limo people are getting + me coming home = more than BHF costs, i said the June event though, i want to go there really badly, but want the car to be solid before I go.

[TomKat]

PDSM's car is nowhere near ready for this event.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I am most likely attending BHF, unless something comes up but so far I can not foresee anything.

[EVILUTION]

I am most likely attending BHF, unless something comes up but so far I can not foresee anything.

Well since EVO = DSM it should be interesting to say the least. You need to get the suspension done before then!!!!

I have some tuning bugs I need to work out as well.

[Pointdsm]

how do you like your suspension Evil?

[EVILUTION]

Well..... There are two versions of coil overs street and track..... Since my car is a daily driver I figured getting track coil overs would be over kill so I got the street version. They ride about the same as stock maybe a little softer on the softest dampening and a tad bit stiffer on the stiffest setting..... I was hoping it would be stiffer than it is as the car still has some roll and dive. The car has been aligned and street tuned but I will be fine tuning at BHFs. There is no way to tell how it will perform on the track. I still can't decide whether to run the ADVANS or the KUMHO MXs at the event.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I am most likely attending BHF, unless something comes up but so far I can not foresee anything.

Well since EVO = DSM it should be interesting to say the least. You need to get the suspension done before then!!!!

I have some tuning bugs I need to work out as well.

its already on bud.

[EVILUTION]

Well how do you like yours?

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Well how do you like yours?

I loved it when it was on the spyder. I just installed them in the silver one and thats it, did not take it for a beat run or anything yet. I am hoping I will have my new Avon Tech R-A in time for BHF.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I am going for sure, just paid my registration fee. 160 dooolers

[EVILUTION]

Well if you run R compounds then you should be damn fast. If they had 235/40/17 at the same price I would have purchased a set.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Well if you run R compounds then you should be damn fast. If they had 235/40/17 at the same price I would have purchased a set.

Not sure if I will have them by then or not, we'll see. I have those kuhmo's still that I should burn those up and I also have some azeines that have some life left in them. And at a lapping day, not sure if i wanna waste some nice r-compounds.

[EVILUTION]

I'll probably run my other set of KUMHO MX tires. They seem to last alot longer than the Advans.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I'll probably run my other set of KUMHO MX tires. They seem to last alot longer than the Advans.

were you selling those MX's???

[Pointdsm]

Use those Falkens!:)

Is it free to get into the track and ride with people, if so i'll come down after my test.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Use those Falkens!:)


I most likely will be.

[Pointdsm]

Signing up for the event tonight. I got my finances in order and my school work taken care of. It was a great day today, so i took the car on some hard beat runs around the county, and it came back fine running as good as a DSM will run. If only I had good tires, i can feel them holding me back at times.

[EVILUTION]

Outstanding!

[Pointdsm]

I'm in need of a MBC though, i'm only running off my wastegate now due to my old MBC not being able to run low enough boost(we cut the spring last summer). I'm tyring on the local forums but they want way to much for a simple piece.

[TSi_II]

Frank's Hardware has to have a spring that'll work... They have a wall of springs.

[Pointdsm]

Yea, i just remembered something. my helmet is still at home, and I won't be coming back to point until the weekend after the event. So i'll need to borrow a helmet if possible(or if someone has an extra one). I'll check at the stores around here for a spring before i buy one online.

[TomKat]

I can pick up your helmet if you want. Is it a Snell approved helmet?

[Pointdsm]

It is Jeske's old black helmet, i haven't checked yet, but I assume it would be. Maybe he can post an answer.

[EVILUTION]

Its not SNELL certified.

The MXs are FS but they are like new so I doubt you would want to pay for them. I'm working a trade with someone right now.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Its not SNELL certified.

The MXs are FS but they are like new so I doubt you would want to pay for them. I'm working a trade with someone right now.

your selling those Kuhmo's, how much?

[EVILUTION]

They are nearly brand new..... selling them outright I wouldn't even know what to ask.....I am trying to trade them +$$$ for a set of used advans.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

They are nearly brand new..... selling them outright I wouldn't even know what to ask.....I am trying to trade them +$$$ for a set of used advans.

I see...

[Pointdsm]

Hmm, well i guess that helmet will only be for WIR and shawano. My red helmet is Snell certified, it is old though. TK, if you want to pick that one up you can, otherwise could I borrow a helmet from someone on here or at the track?

[EVILUTION]

You aren't going to want to borrow a helmet.....the high speed stuff get you all sweaty and nasty. I would be gross to swap helments. Your best bet is to borrow a helmet from someone not going. I used to have a couple but I've sold all my helmets less my open face new one.

[devlish]

have TK pick up your helmet, or have ma/pa drop it off at UPS.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Friday there is a chance for a few showers. Do they still run in the rain? that would be cool if they did.

[Pointdsm]

Checking the weather down here, it looks fine for friday, but changes everyday. I got my boost issue fixed last night, finally. Today i and tomorrow i'm hoping to get my headlights close to being finished. TK, what day works good for the helmet?

[EVILUTION]

Weather looks good for Rockford on Friday....... But yes they run in the rain.

[TomKat]

Any day is good for the helmet.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I need to buy a freaking SNELL approved helmet. that fuckin blows!

[EVILUTION]

I picked up an SA2005 helmet from ebay for $130 shipped last year. They should be cheaper this year.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

Well its getting close now and I still dont have a snall approved helmet, its a fricken lapping day, A snell approved helmet should not be needed.

[ZXTUNER]

should'a had curt make it a snell approved

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

should'a had curt make it a snell approved

i know

[EVILUTION]

Basically any Snell motorcycle helmet will work..... Thats what I used up until last year. I got my helmet from that cycle shop on the way to Rapids.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

miicccckkckckciaha has a snell helmet i can use.

[Pointdsm]

Is that the helment you sold me? How did u use that one?

[EVILUTION]

PDSM .... I dont think that helmet is SNELL rated but I'm not sure. I didn't use it for racing, it was for Carole when I had my rocket. I believe Carole used it at WIR and Golden Sands but I purchased a different helmet for road racing. Greg purchased that helmet (SNELL M2000) and purchased an SA2005 last year.

[Pointdsm]

Gotcha, well, at least i have a nice helmet, it was only 20 bucks anyway(if i remember).

[EVILUTION]

Tomorrow is the big day...... What time is everyone leaving? I'll be heading down in the EARLY morning anyone want to convoy?

Merge onto I-39 S toward PORTAGE (Crossing into ILLINOIS). 156.1 miles

Take the IL-75 W / US-51 N exit- EXIT 1- toward SOUTH BELOIT. 0.2 miles
Turn RIGHT onto US-51 N / IL-75 W. Continue to follow IL-75 W. 2.1 miles
Turn LEFT onto BLACKHAWK BLVD / IL-2 S / IL-75 W. 1.8 miles
Turn RIGHT onto CR-76 / PRAIRIE HILL RD. 0.6 miles
Turn LEFT onto S BLUFF RD / CR-45. 0.2 miles
Turn RIGHT onto YALE BRIDGE RD / CR-48. 1.4 miles
Turn RIGHT onto PRAIRIE RD. 0.5 miles

End at Blackhawk Farms Raceway:
15538 Prairie Rd, South Beloit, IL 61080, US Map
Total Est. Time: 2 hours, 44 minutes Total Est. Distance: 164.78 miles

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I will be leaving at about 4am. I am going to pickup a car down there before the event.

[Pointdsm]

I'm leaving here at 6:30, get there at 7:30, if you want to meet me in beloit we could do that, I could even do janesville(its the long way but i'll do it if you wanna meet up).

[EVILUTION]

Well it looks like we are all leaving at different times so we'll all be going solo.

I'm probably gonna leave about 4:30.

Dizm are you bringing a camera? I would like some new pics.

PDSM be sure to bring some refreshments and extra quart of oil just in case. A hat and lawn chair also come in handy. They will be selling burgers and soda but its not all that cheap.

Don't forget the long sleeve shirt!

[ZXTUNER]

i would be going but the race rubber i ordered and payed 120 bux for next day air wont be here for 2 fucking days dont order from edge racing.com assholes i ordered yesterday morring and it might not be here till monday

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

I will bring my camera. also if you guys want, I can bring my little grill and if everyone wants to pitch in, we could make our own burgers/brats and I can bring a few cases of lemonaide!

[Pointdsm]

I'll bring chairs and soda. It only takes me an hour to get there. I'm bringing a camera, but am going to find another memory card today for it, otherwise i'll have to bring the laptop too(i might anyways). I have extra oil and brake fluid here, as well as alot of tools. I got some wide tape so my numbers look purty this time(as good as it gets without real numbers).

[EVILUTION]

I dont think you'll need numbers for this. I'm getting ready for bed. See you in less than 12 hours.

[TomKat]

You need numbers.

[VPT]

What day is it on?

[EVILUTION]

Well that was a totally kick ass race day. I pretty much love my EVO to death. The new suspension has turned out to be one my most favorite mods so far. I didn't get passed all day.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6052/cimg9130cl6.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg9130cl6.jpg)

Props goes out to both DSMs! Raced all day and drove home under their own power. Nicely done. A big thanks goes out to Tomkat for providing pointers to the entire crew... much appreciated.

It was also good to see a few others show up to spectate! Next time bring your race car.


It appears the Carbotechs still have enough pad left to cover me in Grattan on May 4th and maybe Marshfield on May 6th. The ATE Super Blue brake fluid worked wonders as well.

[Pointdsm]

Honestly, this was the most fun day of my life. I got sunburnt pretty damn bad, but iwas worth it. The DSM didn't break or anything, it did start acting up on the way home a bit(boost leak). I'm loving my suspension mods, and my choice in retaining the stock OEM brakes was a great one. The hawk HPS pads were holding up pretty damn well, only thing i'd like now is some race pads and some race rubber, my crap tires weren't doing it for me. I'll get around to the couple pictures i got later this weekend.

[TomKat]

Glad to hear everyone enjoyed it! Radar gun results on the main straight:

PDSM - 100 mph
Evil - 113 mph
Heavily modified supercharged Mustang - 114 mph
Dizmm - 100mph
Evil - Race gas and new tuning - 115 mph

We set up a chase race between Alex with his EVO 9 against Evil, but we were unable to get more than a half a lap of chasing in because some crappy open wheel car got between us and ruined the whole session. Grrrrr. I really wanted to see this happen because they looked very close.

PDSM vs. Race Accord - PDSM wasn't really catching while following, but when he was leading he was able to pull away each lap.

I wouldn't say the DSM's ran all day without problems. They did make it home under their own power however. Unfortunately Sarge's 8-6 was making horrible noises and will have to be towed home.

[Pointdsm]

True, i kept blowing IC pipes off all day, as well as DIZMM, finally got that fixed at the end of the day.
PDSM vs. R-Accord -- True that I wasn't on your ass while i was behind you, but i feel once i was ahead, I put a large lead on you. Race rubber on either car would have changed the outcome alot though.

That damn open wheel car, why was that in your group, hell, why was it on the fricken track!

[TomKat]

I think better rubber would have helped PDSM's car, but it wouldn't have helped out the Race Accord out that much. That's why I didn't bother putting them on.

[Pointdsm]

I fucking hate this, thanks TK, i'm bit by the bug, I blame you for ruining this summer financially for me!

[TomKat]

This is an expensive hobby. Use your head don't go over board. Remember you are young and still have plenty of time ahead of you.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

my car made it home, but only because I had a complete parts car with me!

[Pointdsm]

post the pics somewhere, i'm doing the same...

[EVILUTION]

I don't think Dizmm got many pics.

PDSM how did the vids turn out?

[Pointdsm]

Well, none of the front straight vids came out, something with my memory card, i lost them. I have a couple from turn 5 though, heres the link to pics and the short videos. EDIT: Nevermind, here they are..http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i282/PointDSM/th_MVI_0282.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i282/PointDSM/?action=view&current=MVI_0282.flv)
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[EVILUTION]

I really hope someone got more pics of our cars at the track.......

[Pointdsm]

waiting for andys pics...

[EVILUTION]

Thanks for the vids and such PDSM. The forum pic is very good!

[Pointdsm]

I was to concerned about watching andy do it and seeing a crash that i forgot all about the camera....

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

waiting for andys pics...

I do not have many pics at all.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

this is the only good pic I got of you Evil:

http://www.dsmsupport.com/images/bhf/IMG_2775.jpg

[Pointdsm]

Me?

[EVILUTION]

That isn't even me! That is Moss. Grrrrrr.

[Pointdsm]

Just got word there is an Open Track day at autobahn May 20th with AMS(jeske would be interested). Its on the south track and is for $225.

[Dizmm, (Old Account)]

That isn't even me! That is Moss. Grrrrrr.

close enough! all evo's are the same

[TomKat]

Ha ha that is a picture of Moss.

If you are going to make the trip to Autobahn I'd suggest going when they run the full course.

[Pointdsm]

I'm not going, just giving the word out.

[smuT]

can I drive my motorcycle at this place?

[TomKat]

A lot of these tracks have lapping days for motorcycles. You'll have to look online.